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Re:Show HN: Whiteboardfree – Developer Jobs at Companies Tha... by maxsilver on Friday May 18, 2018 @10:54AM (#17101941)
> Before looking it up just now, I could have sworn the point was something like "every developer has a door they can close", but oh well.

EDIT: Ok, my mistake, my memory is failing me. "Doors that close" is used in a whole bunch of Joel blog posts, and "walls and doors" is used in the original Joel Test description.

But WaybackMachine seems to confirm that the official label from the "Joel Test" has always been "quiet working conditions" and does not appear to have been changed.

Re:Show HN: Whiteboardfree – Developer Jobs at Companies Tha... by tom_mellior on Friday May 18, 2018 @11:27AM (#17102225)
Sounds plausible, but the blog post from 2000 also has it as "Do programmers have quiet working conditions?"

So unless Joel went back and rewrote the past, it might be our memories. I am fairly sure that he did have another blog post that stated explicitly that every developer at FogCreek had a door.

Re:Show HN: Whiteboardfree – Developer Jobs at Companies Tha... by Clubber on Friday May 18, 2018 @03:06PM (#17104082)
I remember the "all developers should have offices" from Joel. Did he change his mind recently?