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Re:US Births Dip to 30-yr Low; Fertility Rate Sinks Further ... by dragontamer on Thursday May 17, 2018 @06:05PM (#17096449)
> Antisemitism

I don't think that Muslimphobia is an appropriate response to Antisemitism.

Look: the Nazis were primarily Christian. We recognized the political movement of the Nazis as independent of their religion.

People today still don't realize that the Ba'athists of Iraq (who eventually joined with ISIS) were SECULAR. Hint: Religion is at best, a minor component to the violent middle-eastern philosophy. The Middle East is far more complicated than a group of religions.

There is a concept, and this concept goes BEYOND religious grounds (as it is taking hold in the Ba'athist reminants of Northern Iraq). Middle Easterners long for the re-establishment of their lost Empires from the middle ages. They dream of a reunified Arab State. (Or at least, that's the shared dream of the violent ISIS members in general)

And yes. Ba'athists believe it should be secular and pan-religious. They're also authoritarian and incredibly violent. But its important to keep these political groups in mind. But yes, even the secular groups dream of re-establishing their former empire. And yes, Wahhabists believe it should be a religious theocracy. But there's a lot of subgroups to this political movement.

Don't mistake the political situation with the religious undertones. Besides, a Muslim from Nigeria typically doesn't give a rats ass about this "pan-Arabic" stuff. So the religious stuff is purely a distraction.

Re:US Births Dip to 30-yr Low; Fertility Rate Sinks Further ... by raverbashing on Thursday May 17, 2018 @06:22PM (#17096595)
I see your point, I don't see why it is relevant, I know about Ba'ath, etc.

I know that Jews have been suffering more attacks in Europe recently including one in Berlin that wasn't a jew but wore a kippah to "prove it was not dangerous" and got attacked. So ignoring the issue or just sidelining issue is not ideal.

Re:US Births Dip to 30-yr Low; Fertility Rate Sinks Further ... by dragontamer on Thursday May 17, 2018 @06:25PM (#17096625)
Its certainly an issue. But antisemitism / Holocaust deniers are kind of a universal group. Not only are there certain Arab groups who are Holocaust deniers, but there are also Right-Wing KKK Members who were making their anti-Semitism quite clear just a few months ago.

https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/styles/inline/public...

Antisemitism is on the rise. But blaming it squarely on Muslims is just plain wrong. The above Swastika was found at the infamous Charlottesville "Unite the Right" Rally.

I don't necessarily have answers. But I'm also not entirely sure why Muslims get all the blame here. There are plenty of Muslims who are literally thousands of miles away from these incidents (ie: Nigerian Muslims) who really shouldn't be lumped together with the rest of the crap going on.