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Re:US cell carriers are selling access to real-time phone lo... by codedokode on Wednesday May 16, 2018 @11:51AM (#17083362)
This argument can be used against any law, like antitrust law. Having a law department doesn't give you a free pass to break laws.
Re:US cell carriers are selling access to real-time phone lo... by brewdad on Wednesday May 16, 2018 @01:16PM (#17084252)
Unless we start throwing the legal department and higher ups into prison then it basically becomes a free pass to break laws. Currently, we assess fines to corporations that violate these laws.

It then becomes a cost/benefit analysis weighing the likelihood of getting caught * cost of potential fine vs business value of ignoring the law. Ignoring the law is frequently the correct decision.

Re:US cell carriers are selling access to real-time phone lo... by pteredactyl on Wednesday May 16, 2018 @01:39PM (#17084503)
Agreed. There needs to be criminal liability for folks like Stumpf and other big bankers/corporate overlords.

But do you think our government will ever stand up? Doubtful

Re:US cell carriers are selling access to real-time phone lo... by monetus on Wednesday May 16, 2018 @12:59PM (#17084052)
Maybe not, but when the cost of breaking the law is less than the gain, it seems logical. A law department is probably better equipped to make that calculation.

edit: Reading into the context of 'too big to fail' and 'collateral consequences' reveals exactly that kind of behavior.

Re:US cell carriers are selling access to real-time phone lo... by gm-conspiracy on Wednesday May 16, 2018 @02:06PM (#17084843)
No, but when there are only civil penalties at risk, it becomes a business decision, not a moral one.
Re:US cell carriers are selling access to real-time phone lo... by pteredactyl on Wednesday May 16, 2018 @01:38PM (#17084488)
Exactly. I assume that's part of the point.

But having a law doesn't mean people or corporations won't break it out of the 'kindness of their heart'. Or because they're 'good people'.

For example, look at 'No gun zones'. You think a criminal is not going rob a bank at gun point because the bank is a no gun zone? If anything it incentivizes them because they know they'll have a monopoly of force upon entering ( if they have a gun, and can fairly assume no one else will because of 'no gun zone' policy )