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Re:US cell carriers are selling access to real-time phone lo... by noir_lord on Wednesday May 16, 2018 @11:36AM (#17083242)
Parralel construction.

You pull the phone location records of everyone near a protest without a warrant (and no intention of using the location data in court) then you dig into them to find something unrelated to the protest you can nail them on.

That way you take out key players without it looking like a political crackdown.

Re:US cell carriers are selling access to real-time phone lo... by twostoned on Wednesday May 16, 2018 @12:02PM (#17083442)
Based on the discussion in this thread doing such a thing seems relatively easy.

Obligatory Orwell:

“The most gifted of [the Proletariate], who might possibly become a nuclei of discontent, are simply marked down by the Thought Police and eliminated.”

Re:US cell carriers are selling access to real-time phone lo... by noir_lord on Wednesday May 16, 2018 @12:15PM (#17083561)
Yep, that's on the simpler end of the spectrum, they can/could be far more insidious and subtle.

It's horrible but beyond supporting ORG, EFF and writing to my MP (I'm in the UK) not sure what else I can do, even if I protect myself from it my family and friends are still potentially fucked.

Re:US cell carriers are selling access to real-time phone lo... by Jill_the_Pill on Friday May 18, 2018 @09:43AM (#17101357)
Advise everyone you know to keep their phones in foil potato chip bags?

https://www.thedailymeal.com/australian-man-fired-potato-chi...

Re:US cell carriers are selling access to real-time phone lo... by Lionsion on Wednesday May 16, 2018 @03:51PM (#17085857)
> ORG

What's ORG?

Re:US cell carriers are selling access to real-time phone lo... by noir_lord on Wednesday May 16, 2018 @03:53PM (#17085876)
Re:US cell carriers are selling access to real-time phone lo... by cryoshon on Thursday May 17, 2018 @09:41AM (#17091156)
show up to a protest. bring your family and friends.

encourage everyone to boycott american companies.

Re:US cell carriers are selling access to real-time phone lo... by ende on Thursday May 17, 2018 @12:25PM (#17092765)
It’s not just American companies.
Re:US cell carriers are selling access to real-time phone lo... by Yhippa on Wednesday May 16, 2018 @09:58PM (#17088102)
That's absolutely a chilling effect. Just thinking about this I'm thinking back on events I've been to what what the government can infer from that. And they can probably nail us for anything now whenever they want to and it will be hard to trace it back to this kind of monitoring and analysis. The only way to avoid that would be to leave your phone at home and hope nobody records you or takes photos.
Re:US cell carriers are selling access to real-time phone lo... by tgsovlerkhgsel on Wednesday May 16, 2018 @04:28PM (#17086164)
That assumes use by a malicious government, but what was described above was illegal use by private entities.

I'm pretty sure that in Germany, some of the described activities could be punished with prison time (and they certainly should).

Re:US cell carriers are selling access to real-time phone lo... by stef25 on Thursday May 17, 2018 @05:39AM (#17089950)
So this is just a way to bulk identify people in a certain location at a certain time. Fairly efficient I guess but could bring up a lot of false positives, like passers by, journalists etc
Re:US cell carriers are selling access to real-time phone lo... by coldacid on Thursday May 17, 2018 @10:59AM (#17091836)
I would think that the people who would want to bulk identify people at certain events wouldn't consider tracked journalists to be false positives.