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Re:Has wine gone bad? by groby_b on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @04:10PM (#17077444)
There is, however, a $15 bottle of Whiskey that beats Pappy every single time. (Well, used to be. They're not selling it any more.)

And there are $80 bottles of wine that can't be approached by any of the $8 bottles.

The thing is, both businesses are about both very subjective taste, and about marketing. You'll need to find what works for you, and roll with that. In both areas, spending more money makes it more likely you avoid the absolute disasters, but it doesn't guarantee you get something more than mediocre.

Re:Has wine gone bad? by Semaphor on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @04:25PM (#17077573)
> In both areas, spending more money makes it more likely you avoid the absolute disasters, but it doesn't guarantee you get something more than mediocre.

I agree very much. With whiskey I can generally say, I like the more expensive ones (to a limit) better, but then I also like the cheap 10yo (~$35) Laphroaig better than their more expensive 15yo (~$118) one.

Re:Has wine gone bad? by andperseand on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @04:23PM (#17077553)
What is this $15 bottle of whiskey? I'd love to know what cheap bourbons are good.
Re:Has wine gone bad? by groby_b on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @05:56PM (#17078240)
I must shamefully admit: I don't recall the name. I have to go back to my tasting notes. This is based on memories from a few years ago.

I just remember being thunderstruck by the fact that something so cheap was (for my taste) better than Van Winkle. (Which I considered in general overpriced, but still pretty damn good.)

Re:Has wine gone bad? by dhimes on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @05:01PM (#17077827)
Larceny is a little more but very nice; Buffalo Trace a bit more still but delicious. Disclaimer: I'm new to bourbon.
Re:Has wine gone bad? by sulam on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @08:32PM (#17079079)
I don’t know how affordable it is but I’ll drink Whistlepig anytime I see it.
Re:Has wine gone bad? by andperseand on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @11:21PM (#17079796)
Of the very few bourbons I've bought, Buffalo Trace and Wild Turkey 101 have been excellent value to me. I keep hearing Rittenhouse Rye as well, so that might be my next one to try...
Re:Has wine gone bad? by thr0w__4w4y on Wednesday May 16, 2018 @10:34PM (#17088274)
Rittenhouse was a delightful find for me a few years ago. A friend and I ordered Manhattans, he asked for his to be made with Rittenhouse. Funny thing is, it's the only bourbon or rye that I drink straight... it is smooth and delicious. The people here who've mentioned Rittenhouse are doing you the same favor that my buddy did a few years ago. And it's very affordable, usually $22-$25 a bottle. As many have said, although taste is a very subjective thing, cost and enjoyment aren't always correlated...