Re:Enter the Matrix – A technical overview and guide to all ...
by heavenlyhash on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @05:00AM
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So basically you reiterate what I said. And specifically:
> So, basically, don't use legacy clients on your account, cause they will degrade your overall experience.
Yes. As I said.
But let's not put a bouquet of roses on it: it's even worse than that, because you don't just have a degraded experience when using a legacy client. Using a "legacy client" -- of which there are many because of the XEP swamp -- will make all other clients behave wrong. And it is impossible[1] to tell which client (or server) to blame. Thus resulting in even the most modern and chose-the-right-XEPs clients regularly getting bug reports about lost messages... even if some other client is at fault.
If that's not a trainwreck I don't know what is.
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[1] inb4: nothing is "impossible". But "practically speaking impossible for an end user who has other things to get done today and a limited time budget for debugging a problem which is a $n$-dimensional matrix of their clients and servers in use", yes.
> So, basically, don't use legacy clients on your account, cause they will degrade your overall experience.
Yes. As I said.
But let's not put a bouquet of roses on it: it's even worse than that, because you don't just have a degraded experience when using a legacy client. Using a "legacy client" -- of which there are many because of the XEP swamp -- will make all other clients behave wrong. And it is impossible[1] to tell which client (or server) to blame. Thus resulting in even the most modern and chose-the-right-XEPs clients regularly getting bug reports about lost messages... even if some other client is at fault.
If that's not a trainwreck I don't know what is.
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[1] inb4: nothing is "impossible". But "practically speaking impossible for an end user who has other things to get done today and a limited time budget for debugging a problem which is a $n$-dimensional matrix of their clients and servers in use", yes.