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Re:Steve Jobs at MIT Sloan School of Management (1992) [video] by abakker on Monday May 14, 2018 @10:54AM (#17066039)
Dude...that sounds a lot like a "no true scotsman" line of argument. if by "real computers" you mean devices for programmers to train ML models, then yeah, Apple is pretty lacking, if by "real computers" you mean devices which operate end-user facing software, well, the spectrum widens enough to show you why Apple is approaching a trillion dollar market cap.

put another way, a lot of the _reason_ that companies like facebook and google are doing any computation in the first place is because of the level of data and interaction that people are doing on devices made by apple. You are welcome to make a distinction between a Cray and a MacBook pro, bu it is kind of pedantic.

Re:Steve Jobs at MIT Sloan School of Management (1992) [video] by radiorental on Monday May 14, 2018 @12:53PM (#17067075)
If sending emails and browsing Facebook is 'computing' then you're right.

If being able to create the 'end use software' on these devices, then again you're right.

If these devices are little more than portable web browsers, computing ?