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Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by aaron-lebo on Friday May 11, 2018 @11:26PM (#17052328)
But these rights were not granted to entire groups of people during slavery. See how the Irish were treated both by the British and as immigrants to the US. They were seen as lesser.

Irish Catholics and many other groups had no special place as immigrants, they didn't get positive points for not being African. That's the unfortunate truth with all forms of discrimination, it's hardly something limited by class, race or time.

Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by vhudud on Saturday May 12, 2018 @12:34AM (#17052485)
Irish american here. My ancestors came after slavery waa abolished in the us. They faced much discrimination when they arrived. Yet i still indirectly benefit from slavery and its repercussions. My family fled a decaying crime filled city to the suburbs. Their black neighbors could not, thanks to redlining and restrictive conevants. But by then, irish Americans were more likely to be seen as white. I grew up in a nice town with good schools as a result.

Sure, slavery didnt literally benefit every white person. But youd be hard pressed to find a white person today who never experienced any form of white privellage

Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by tptacek on Saturday May 12, 2018 @12:52AM (#17052540)
They got massive points for not being African. They were included --- belatedly --- in the definition of "white" precisely so they could join other European Americans in solidarity against Africans. "No positive points for Irish for not being black" is a crazy, ahistorical thing to say. When I was born, in the 1970s, there wasn't a neighborhood in Chicago my Irish family couldn't have gotten a mortgage in. African Americans couldn't say that!
Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by aaron-lebo on Saturday May 12, 2018 @01:12AM (#17052585)
We may be talking about different times.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_nativist_riots

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Irish_sentiment

https://www.history.com/news/when-america-despised-the-irish...

I find nothing ahistorical about what I said.

If you go further back and see what Cromwell and others did to the Irish (the first British colonization was in Ireland), and then extend that to the US, where that kind of hatred was shared by Nativists, it is certainly not inaccurate, even if the discrimination is of a different from than what Africans faced.

I dislike the notion that because people aren't African they weren't victims, too, which gets bandied around a lot. We all have tragedies and I see no reason to ignore the plight of one to make the point about another (which the parent post does, wrongly).