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Re:Emails Show FDA Chemists Have Been Finding Glyphosate in ... by himom on Thursday May 10, 2018 @08:04PM (#17043928)
Another reason to go organic.
Re:Emails Show FDA Chemists Have Been Finding Glyphosate in ... by a_bonobo on Thursday May 10, 2018 @08:15PM (#17043986)
Most forms of organic farming still use pesticies, just different ones, with similar or worse health risks.

>In head-to-head comparisons, natural pesticides don't fare any better than synthetic ones. When I compared the organic chemicals copper sulfate and pyrethrum to the top synthetics, chlorpyrifos and chlorothalonil, I found that not only were the organic ones more acutely toxic, studies have found that they are more chronically toxic as well, and have higher negative impacts on non-target species. My results match with other scientific comparisons. In their recommendations to Parliament in 1999, the Committee on European Communities noted that copper sulfate, in particular, was far more dangerous than the synthetic alternative. A review of their findings can be seen in the table on the right (from a recent review paper). Similarly, head to head comparisons have found that organic pesticides aren't better for the environment, either.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/science-sushi/pesticide...

Re:Emails Show FDA Chemists Have Been Finding Glyphosate in ... by GW150914 on Thursday May 10, 2018 @09:28PM (#17044349)
Glyphosate is an herbicide, not a pesticide.
Re:Emails Show FDA Chemists Have Been Finding Glyphosate in ... by usaname on Thursday May 10, 2018 @11:25PM (#17044767)
No herbicides, fungicides and insecticides are all pesticides.
Re:Emails Show FDA Chemists Have Been Finding Glyphosate in ... by GW150914 on Friday May 11, 2018 @09:30AM (#17047148)
Sounds good, but the example given chlorpyrifos, is an insecticide. In context it was very clear that a mistake was made, and not by me.
Re:Emails Show FDA Chemists Have Been Finding Glyphosate in ... by adrr on Thursday May 10, 2018 @08:34PM (#17044099)
Organic pesticides are nasty stuff as well.

"In 2010, a study was published detailing the progression of Parkinson's-like symptoms in mice following chronic intragastric ingestion of low doses of rotenone. The concentrations in the central nervous system were below detectable limits, yet still induced PD pathology.[31]

In 2011, a US National Institutes of Health study showed a link between rotenone use and Parkinson's disease in farm workers."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotenone

Re:Emails Show FDA Chemists Have Been Finding Glyphosate in ... by alexandercrohde on Thursday May 10, 2018 @08:45PM (#17044169)
Rotenone is no longer an organic pesticide.

[Even in America. It can only be used as a "fishkill"]

source: http://npic.orst.edu/NPRO/#

Re:Emails Show FDA Chemists Have Been Finding Glyphosate in ... by adrr on Thursday May 10, 2018 @09:00PM (#17044223)
Only in Europe. Its still approved by the USDA.

Source(failed petition to remove it): https://www.ams.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media/Rotenone%...

Re:Emails Show FDA Chemists Have Been Finding Glyphosate in ... by gowld on Thursday May 10, 2018 @09:05PM (#17044251)
What does "organic" mean if a specific substance can become "not organic" without changing?
Re:Emails Show FDA Chemists Have Been Finding Glyphosate in ... by oasisbob on Thursday May 10, 2018 @11:57PM (#17044877)
You have a point. I think "not organic" in this context is shorthand for "not allowed in organic agriculture." Scanning the reg, the USDA's list is titled "Prohibited Natural Substances."
Re:Emails Show FDA Chemists Have Been Finding Glyphosate in ... by pluma on Friday May 11, 2018 @04:27AM (#17045755)
If you think the term "organic" is silly: in German the word that's used means "biological".
Re:Emails Show FDA Chemists Have Been Finding Glyphosate in ... by GW150914 on Thursday May 10, 2018 @09:31PM (#17044358)
I hate to repeat myself, but it bears repeating: glyphosate is an herbicide and not a pesticide. It’s significant, because pesticides organic or otherwise are something designed to kill animals, not plants. We’re animals, not plants, so herbicides are generally far less toxic than pesticides to us. While we’re quite different in many ways to insects, we share a lot of metabolic machinery; the same is not true of us and plants.
Re:Emails Show FDA Chemists Have Been Finding Glyphosate in ... by usaname on Thursday May 10, 2018 @11:27PM (#17044776)
Google pesticide please.
Re:Emails Show FDA Chemists Have Been Finding Glyphosate in ... by GW150914 on Friday May 11, 2018 @09:30AM (#17047158)
Google Rotenone, the example used. It’s... wait for it... an insecticide!