Google’s new conversational AI could eventually undermine our sense of identity

Re:Google’s new conversational AI could eventually undermine... by gremlinsinc on Thursday May 10, 2018 @09:02AM (#17038456)

Are you kidding me? It's not a cute statistical trick, it's a well-thought out mechanism to re-create in 1's and 0's how the human brain works and thinks, we're merely infants in what this will become, as we mind map the brain more - I'm sure the technology will pivot quite a bit, neural networks may be obsolete and something more powerful come along viz a viz quantum computing, but to say talking robots that can totally be confused for a real person, and self-driving cars that make life/death decisions on their own is not impressive and not AI or 'machine learning' is outride ridiculous.

Intelligence is something with short and long term memory, that can learn new things in an organic fashion, right now we can 'train' ai's to do some amazing things -- but this is only the beginning.

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Re:Google’s new conversational AI could eventually undermine... by hefeweizen on Thursday May 10, 2018 @09:21AM (#17038569)

I think the GP is pointing out that people tend to overestimate how powerful these techniques are and that using the term AI might have something to do with that.

Not that it isn't impressive: it's just that we are pretty far off from anything resembling what "Artificial Intelligence" may come to embody (ignoring, for the moment, all fuzzy definitions of intelligence).

It's like building a paper airplane and worrying about the aging effects of space travel at light speed: maybe a good thought experiment but not that big a concern right now.

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Re:Google’s new conversational AI could eventually undermine... by bsenftner on Thursday May 10, 2018 @09:47AM (#17038786)

It is a cute statistical trick. It has zero insight. Current AI is a very sophisticated manipulation of past event resolution, seeking to fit a current event into past resolutions. The term "idiot savant" is closer than "artificial intelligence" - because the algorithm knows not what it is doing, why it is doing, or how it is doing. It's an idiot.

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Re:Google’s new conversational AI could eventually undermine... by whataretensors on Thursday May 10, 2018 @10:15AM (#17038997)

I'm more hopeful that narrow ai can be the same thing as strong ai with a few theory breakthroughs, increases in model capacity and metacognition.

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Re:Google’s new conversational AI could eventually undermine... by bsenftner on Thursday May 10, 2018 @10:31AM (#17039135)

Narrow AI is like a single celled animal, while strong AI is like a complete human in comparison. The complexity difference is more than an order of magnitude, it's an entire evolutionary era.

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Re:Google’s new conversational AI could eventually undermine... by whataretensors on Thursday May 10, 2018 @10:48AM (#17039299)

I don't disagree with a gap that needs to be overcome. I just think that the exponential nature of technology will cross it quickly.

Evolution is amazing but it doesn't optimize directly for intelligence.

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Re:Google’s new conversational AI could eventually undermine... by cirgue on Thursday May 10, 2018 @09:48AM (#17038788)

> well-thought out mechanism to re-create in 1's and 0's how the human brain works and thinks,

This is impressive technology, but it is emphatically not that. It is very much a cute statistical trick coupled with really excellent voice processing software.

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