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Re:Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu ha... by isostatic on Thursday May 10, 2018 @08:49AM (#17038362)
Many years ago I used to use light weight window managers. I remember using icewm after I got fed up with enlightenment, but I think it was Fluxbox that I kept for a long time -- up until about 2010.

However having access to things like a network manager to join wireless networks, a battery indicator, a volume control, etc is essential in today's world, which is why I now run a heavyweight xfce environment.

Re:Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu ha... by chmln on Thursday May 10, 2018 @01:16PM (#17040866)
> However having access to things like a network manager to join wireless networks, a battery indicator, a volume control, etc is essential in today's world, which is why I now run a heavyweight xfce environment.

You don't need to run a full DE to have tray icons. I'm running i3 and the network manager applet + other tray items work just fine.

Re:Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu ha... by grumdan on Thursday May 10, 2018 @09:27AM (#17038607)
This is somewhat orthogonal to what window manager you are running though. Most tiling WMs (e.g. xmonad) combine nicely with xfce[1], giving you all the convenience features you mention while still not having to mess around with moving and resizing windows. I've been using that combination for years and wouldn't want to switch back to either plain xmonad or plain xfce.

[1] https://wiki.haskell.org/Xmonad/Using_xmonad_in_XFCE

Re:Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu ha... by mrighele on Thursday May 10, 2018 @09:56AM (#17038863)
You can have those with a window manager too, but in this case you need to do more fiddling

I use xmonad with stalonetray [1] (which as you may guess from the name is a standalone notification tray) and dzen2 [2] as a notification area for basic information ( battery / cpu / temperature / wifi status ). With them I cover enough of my needs and I don't feel the need to anything more complex.

I think that it would be nice to have some middle ground between a full desktop environment and bare-bone and manually configured window manager though.

[1] http://stalonetray.sourceforge.net/ [2] https://github.com/robm/dzen

Re:Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu ha... by setquk on Thursday May 10, 2018 @08:51AM (#17038378)
Same.

If they did a simple non tiling WM that had those little things in it and wasn't a piece of crap, I'd be there like a shot.

Re:Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu ha... by Sylos on Thursday May 10, 2018 @09:14AM (#17038531)
LXDE/LXQt is what I think of when I read your descriptions.

It's Openbox (which is a really capable, lightweight non-tiling window manager) plus a panel plus Xfce Power Manager and similar applications to handle the desktop environment stuff.

Re:Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu ha... by setquk on Thursday May 10, 2018 @09:29AM (#17038616)
Thanks - will definitely take a look at that over the weekend. The lighter the better for me.
Re:Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu ha... by thanatropism on Thursday May 10, 2018 @05:28PM (#17043124)
I have all those things with spectrwm and dmenu.