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Re:A female engineer's opinion on why there are fewer women ... by yosito on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @07:45PM (#17035296)
Reasonable enough, but if that's the case, we should be blaming the avoidance on men for their social incompetence, not on women for having boundaries.
Re:A female engineer's opinion on why there are fewer women ... by meowface on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @07:49PM (#17035322)
Or we shouldn't be blaming either men or women and instead should work towards more open communication and solidarity regarding these issues.
Re:A female engineer's opinion on why there are fewer women ... by yosito on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @08:04PM (#17035406)
You're right.
Re:A female engineer's opinion on why there are fewer women ... by ravenstine on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @08:08PM (#17035430)
What exactly does a man get for going out of his way like you suggest? Most of the time, nothing. Unless I can read that a woman is receptive to friendship, trying to befriend women because they're women is time better spent on working. It's a two-way street, and while I have had my share of female friends, the majority of women are either not receptive(i.e. won't give men the benefit of the doubt) or content to wait for men to take the initiative.
Re:A female engineer's opinion on why there are fewer women ... by yosito on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @08:47PM (#17035623)
A man is not entitled to get anything. And if he's trying to get something, that seems like a pretty good reason for a woman to not be receptive to him. How many times have you walked past a homeless person trying to be "friendly" because you knew their motivation was to get something from you?

I'm a man, nerdy, below average attractiveness, but a majority of my friends are women because I don't approach them trying to get something, and I've found that a majority of women are extremely receptive to being friends.

Re:A female engineer's opinion on why there are fewer women ... by ravenstine on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @09:17PM (#17035745)
Of course they're not entitled to get anything, but a reasonable person doesn't continue performing the same action when it benefits them in no way. There's nothing irrational about a man not going out of his way to befriend women in the workplace because he's had bad luck doing it, or because of the risks he's not going to have befriending other men.

If you have a lot of women as friends, that's great. Your experience is not the experience of a lot of men. A lot of men can't relate to women on a platonic level, and that doesn't mean they're misogynists.

Re:A female engineer's opinion on why there are fewer women ... by yosito on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @10:00PM (#17035900)
I think it's problematic, if you're interested in having equality in tech, that men can't relate platonically to women. So if there are a lot of men who can't relate to women, why do you think that is?
Re:A female engineer's opinion on why there are fewer women ... by manicdee on Sunday May 13, 2018 @08:48PM (#17061906)
Who is apportioning blame?

Young conflict-averse man starts life being a little socially inept. Tries breaking the ice with unreceptive women, typical human psychology sets in and this behaviour is generalised to all women. Now socially inept man continues through life with underdeveloped social skills while the people he wants to interact with are developing more complex social skills.

Who is to blame? Nobody in this scenario, Consider looking to why the man is conflict averse in the first place.

Re:A female engineer's opinion on why there are fewer women ... by Zarath on Thursday May 10, 2018 @01:07PM (#17040759)
This is so ridiculous. Obviously there are some boundaries that are unreasonable. What if I don't like when anyone of the opposite sex sits within 50 meters of me? Should everyone cater to my boundaries, or am I just being ridiculous?