Firefox 60 released

Re:Firefox 60 released by diggan on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @01:27PM (#17031777)

I'm unsure if this is actually Firefox fault. I'm running Linux (arch and Ubuntu), Windows and macOS, and Firefox is only slow on macOS, while my macOS machine is the second most powerful machine I have. Running Firefox in a Ubuntu VM on macOS is faster than running it natively on macOS.

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Re:Firefox 60 released by Paul-ish on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @01:40PM (#17031912)

Regardless who is technically at fault, the Firefox team is best placed to resolve the issue.

It kind of surprises me that this is an issue at all. I was under the impression a large number of FF devs use Macbooks.

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Re:Firefox 60 released by spiderfarmer on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @01:44PM (#17031959)

Yeah, well they know what the problem is but it fails to get a high enough priority to get solved: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1407536

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Re:Firefox 60 released by pcwalton on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @02:16PM (#17032332)

It is highly unlikely that this single issue is responsible for everything reported in this thread.

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Re:Firefox 60 released by vanderZwan on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @02:01PM (#17032155)

I find this confusing: there is tons of discussion in the thread, and yet:

> UNCONFIRMED

> Votes: 0 votes

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Re:Firefox 60 released by spiderfarmer on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @02:14PM (#17032317)

Yeah plus I find it strange that their telemetry isn’t picking this up.

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Re:Firefox 60 released by jamienicol on Thursday May 10, 2018 @04:55AM (#17037267)

Hi, I'm one of the commenters on that bug.

The discussion is all specific to that page. The biggest issue is that the animations are being driven from Javascript instead of CSS, so there's little we can do to optimize it.

The rest of the discussion is possible heuristics we can implement to optimize how we layerize the page. It would potentially help on this page, but might make things slower elsewhere.

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Re:Firefox 60 released by spiderfarmer on Friday May 11, 2018 @03:11AM (#17045488)

The problem is not with that page. A simple CSS animation without JS triggers the same issues.

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Re:Firefox 60 released by jamienicol on Monday May 14, 2018 @11:14AM (#17066199)

Sorry I don't check hackernews for replies frequently.

That bug refers to high cpu load on that page. On that page it is due to the animation being driven from javascript.

If a simple CSS animation causes high cpu usage please file a separate bug with an attached test case.

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Re:Firefox 60 released by Paul-ish on Thursday May 10, 2018 @11:25AM (#17039704)

If it is a JS vs CSS issue, why does it only slow things down on macOS?

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Re:Firefox 60 released by jamienicol on Monday May 14, 2018 @11:11AM (#17066186)

The site in question on that bug is CPU heavy on all platforms

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Re:Firefox 60 released by BuckRogers on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @11:14PM (#17036131)

They do use a lot of Macbooks but Windows users get priority care since they're the meat of their market.

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Re:Firefox 60 released by ComputerGuru on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @02:24PM (#17032406)

So you’re proposing this is a macOS gremlin that appears only with Firefox?

Don’t you think it’s more likely there is a bug in macOS-specific Firefox code?

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Re:Firefox 60 released by Avshalom on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @03:04PM (#17032832)

Well the thing is it seems to only affect every other mac user even with otherwise identical hardware and os version.

If I had to guess I would chalk it up to a qc issue on some Apple specific chipset that just doesn't get hit by the other browsers code paths and just doesn't get noticed in other less used, less intensive apps.

How to diagnose it or work around it is beyond me.

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Re:Firefox 60 released by diggan on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @02:37PM (#17032558)

Well, all cross-platform browsers run slower on macOS than other OSes, at least in my limited testing.

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Re:Firefox 60 released by vondur on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @03:46PM (#17033271)

I agree. Firefox seems to run really well on Linux, but seems to just feel slow on MacOS.

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Re:Firefox 60 released by lwansbrough on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @01:31PM (#17031818)

Of course it's Firefox's fault. Chrome works fine.

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Re:Firefox 60 released by CyberDildonics on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @01:38PM (#17031890)

If other web browsers don't do it, how is it not firefox's fault?

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