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Re:The Wealthy Are Hoarding $10B of Bitcoin in Bunkers by wpietri on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @01:09PM (#17031590)
Yes, buying gold with the intention of selling it later is speculation. Buying anything with the intention of selling it later for a higher price is speculation.

If you were a jewelry-maker, I suppose you could call buying gold an investment.

Re:The Wealthy Are Hoarding $10B of Bitcoin in Bunkers by coryfklein on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @02:19PM (#17032357)
> Buying anything with the intention of selling it later for a higher price is speculation.

I'm buying shares of an S&P 500 index now with the intention of selling them at a higher price in ~40-50 years. Am I a speculator or an investor?

Re:The Wealthy Are Hoarding $10B of Bitcoin in Bunkers by wpietri on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @04:38PM (#17033833)
Index funds receive dividends from the stocks, so you're investing.

This may be hidden from you if the index fund (or your broker) automatically reinvests. But either way, you own economically productive assets that a) create value for customers, and b) throw off a stream of cash. Even if the S&P 500 is at the exact same level in 50 years, you'll still gain significantly. That's obviously not true of commodities (e.g., gold, silver) or currencies.

Re:The Wealthy Are Hoarding $10B of Bitcoin in Bunkers by actsasbuffoon on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @04:43PM (#17033885)
Agreed. Even trading fiat currency through Forex is a form of speculation. The Wikipedia page for Forex even describes it as such: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_exchange_market