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Re:Who controls glibc? by rurban on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @01:24AM (#17018997)
He might not be the maintainer, but he is the BDFL. It's about respect. See what happened to Drepper who violated his respect.

I like the joke, and I sympathize with RMS to let it in. In any case he opposed it so there is now a power struggle about the control of his project. I would love to see a better maintained glibc btw. Too much politics, not enough competence.

Re:Who controls glibc? by DandyDev on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @02:47AM (#17019287)
The dictator in question certainly doesn't seem Benevolent to me in this case.
Re:Who controls glibc? by geezerjay on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @07:49AM (#17020284)
> The dictator in question certainly doesn't seem Benevolent to me in this case.

I don't see the point. RMS directs the organization and establises the policy it follows. I fail to see how a maintainer could feel entitled to dictate that policy just because he has access to the repository. That would be like a printing press janitor feeling entitled to censor what he feels a newspaper should not publish.

Re:Who controls glibc? by Tepix on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @05:56AM (#17019861)
It's not like he is not benevolent either.
Re:Who controls glibc? by rurban on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @07:04AM (#17020096)
He certainly is. He tries to protect the project from morons, which invaded most bigger projects which are not cultured in technical discussions anymore.

Compare that to the education of doctors. They need to persist on proper terminology and are hardened in a long process. PC is absolutely counterproductive there.

Many obviously did not get the reference in this paragraph, but it still relevant, as this episode showed. Abort vs kill is loaded by a long fight, hence the reference about future censorship attempts.

Re:Who controls glibc? by keiyakins on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @12:21PM (#17022109)
> PC is absolutely counterproductive there

A. No, the terminology used by medical professionals is constantly shifting to do things like acknowledge that people with issues are still people.

B. Your reasoning is presumably about confusion and lack of clarity, yes? How exactly is a reference to a law that has never been proposed serving that?

Re:Who controls glibc? by SEJeff on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @10:37AM (#17021165)
Well see what Drepper did. CTRL-f for "Stallman" in these glibc release notes:

https://sourceware.org/ml/libc-announce/2001/msg00000.html

While I agree with Ulrich, it is pretty brutal.

Re:Who controls glibc? by rurban on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @06:30AM (#17028769)
Yes, that was what I was referring to. It backfired big time.

See what Drepper is doing now: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ulrichdrepper He went from Technical Director at Redhat (i.e. glibc maintainer), to VP at Goldman Sachs (i.e. booted and being called an asshole), and now he is Engineer at Redhat.