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Re:Buffett bashes Bitcoin as nonproductive, thriving on myst... by mcguire on Monday May 07, 2018 @11:43AM (#17013620)
Further, when you buy a part of a company, you are buying a piece of a functioning economic unit. When you loan money, you are finding economic activity.

When you buy a Bitcoin, you are helping to convert electricity to heat.

Re:Buffett bashes Bitcoin as nonproductive, thriving on myst... by piracy1 on Monday May 07, 2018 @12:04PM (#17013820)
Electricity into security
Re:Buffett bashes Bitcoin as nonproductive, thriving on myst... by cookiecaper on Monday May 07, 2018 @12:26PM (#17014032)
In practice, it's not very secure because the difficulty mechanism ensures that hash power always centralizes. Any widespread commodity miner will automatically defeat itself -- that's why all of those early ASIC startups fizzled out. As soon as they shipped something, their value proposition was nullified.

Add to this that the payout mechanics strongly incentivize pooled mining, even for people with powerful miners, and the "guarantees" get that much flimsier. A small handful of men ultimately control the Bitcoin network because they have authority over 50%+ of the hash power, and they've all been in the same room on multiple occasions. It's no different than the small handful of men who control the Fed / other major financial institutions in our fiat systems.

Bitcoin was an excellent thought experiment, but it's no wonder that Satoshi wants nothing to do with what it has become.

Re:Buffett bashes Bitcoin as nonproductive, thriving on myst... by piracy1 on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @12:50PM (#17022413)
What do you think of the way things like ZCash and Monero solve that problem? They use hashing algorithms that are more or less immune to ASICS. This is especially true in the case of Monero which just tweaked their PoW algo in order to set monero ASICS back. Stopping ASICs promotes the average person mining on their gaming rig or things like that.

Also "A small handful of men ultimately control the Bitcoin network because they have authority over 50%+ of the hash power"

I think that's a bit hyperbolic. A small handful of men control where the hashing power currently is. However, that can change very quickly. If you don't like what a pool is trying to use your hashing power for, leave that pool.

Re:Buffett bashes Bitcoin as nonproductive, thriving on myst... by 45h34jh53k4j on Monday May 07, 2018 @12:19PM (#17013960)
energy into money. We always wanted a universal energy based currency -- it is bitcoin.
Re:Buffett bashes Bitcoin as nonproductive, thriving on myst... by strypey on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @01:51AM (#17027658)
I think that would be more like SolarCoin: https://solarcoin.org/
Re:Buffett bashes Bitcoin as nonproductive, thriving on myst... by mcguire on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @11:54AM (#17021887)
I thought that was energy production.
Re:Buffett bashes Bitcoin as nonproductive, thriving on myst... by nkrisc on Monday May 07, 2018 @12:17PM (#17013943)
Think of them as shares of entropy.
Re:Buffett bashes Bitcoin as nonproductive, thriving on myst... by panarky on Monday May 07, 2018 @12:42PM (#17014173)
A thing doesn't have to be "a piece of a functioning economic unit" to be worth owning.

Examples: copper, gold, land, art, wireless spectrum, currency.

There's a perfectly valid rationale to hold each of these assets, and none of them are "productive" by themselves.

Each of these has scarcity and utility. That's what matters.