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Re:The Basic Sourdough by awinder on Sunday May 06, 2018 @10:20AM (#17006485)
One of the better techniques I’ve picked up (pretty sure I got it from https://www.amazon.com/Flour-Water-Salt-Yeast-Fundamentals/d...) replaces the kneeding steps with folds during the first 2-3 hours of bulk fermentation. Basically after mixing in starter transfer to large fermentation vessel, reach under the dough from 4 corners one at a time, grab and pull over the top of the dough to opposite corner. Wait an hour and repeat, wait 2 hours and repeat, then let fermentation do it’s thing.

This saves a lot of effort, mess, and prevents dough from becoming overworked. Effort that can later be expended in dough shaping steps ;-).

Re:The Basic Sourdough by hendricius on Sunday May 06, 2018 @11:37AM (#17006779)
Yes this works with strong all purpose flour. What happens if you use rye dough? You can't stretch and fold it. The rye has too weak gluten structure. It will mostly fall a part.