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Re:Unroll.me to close to EU users saying it can’t comply wit... by gerdesj on Saturday May 05, 2018 @06:21PM (#17004191)
What will happen is that the EU will just have access to a dramatically smaller array of sites on the Internet

Bollocks.

I run a small (IT) business in the UK. I will have just as much internet as you post 25 May. The difference may be that my company and others in the EU might automatically be perceived as more trustworthy than those that do not comply with GDPR and hence we may benefit.

Re:Unroll.me to close to EU users saying it can’t comply wit... by Silhouette on Saturday May 05, 2018 @07:19PM (#17004413)
I also have small businesses in the UK, so we also have no choice about complying. The abundance of caution described by downandout here seems excessive, even to me as a confirmed GDPR critic, but to good actors of the kind mentioned, the GDPR is basically just an exercise in bureaucracy, cost overheads, and uncertainty. Things might be different for B2B service providers, but if we make a single extra penny from anything to do with this whole mess in B2C world, I'll be amazed.
Re:Unroll.me to close to EU users saying it can’t comply wit... by gerdesj on Saturday May 05, 2018 @09:53PM (#17004904)
but if we make a single extra penny from anything to do with this whole mess in B2C world, I'll be amazed.

GDPR is not a money making exercise.

My company has a wiki page called "Risks and Opportunities". GDPR is definitively under Opp. these days - for us and our customers. I also quite like it as a person - a private individual.

Re:Unroll.me to close to EU users saying it can’t comply wit... by asclepi on Sunday May 06, 2018 @03:54AM (#17005631)
It's too early to tell. My feeling is that you will be right on May 25th, 2018. Nothing significant will change in the short term. But my feeling is also that the parent will be right on May 25th, 2021, if the EU chooses to enforce the GDPR vigorously and if the experience doesn't force the EU to revise - or at least "interpret" - the GDPR.

Let's first be totally clear: GAFA isn't suspending their EU operations, nor is any other company that 1) has already an established EU base and 2) can afford the cost of compliance. What I think will happen is that new players will stay out of the EU, because of the perceived risk (accurate or not) and the cost of compliance. So I do agree with the parent that the GDPR will eventually lead to a slow pauperization of the internet in the EU, the only difference with China being that it is self-inflicted rather than self-imposed.

Note that there are very few regulations out there (EU or US) that have actually helped the internet. Most of the regulation that was drafted in good faith turned out to bring more harm than good to the internet, the recent FOSTA bill being a prime example. At this time, I have no indication to believe that the GDPR will succeed where most other bills have failed. But if it turns out otherwise, I'll be the first to admit that I was wrong.

Re:Unroll.me to close to EU users saying it can’t comply wit... by ocdtrekkie on Saturday May 05, 2018 @08:40PM (#17004697)
I will generally indeed be more inclined to interact with EU sites since I know they are GDPR compliant. I'd honestly be really tempted to VPN to Europe so that US companies think I'm an EU citizen too.

The most interesting thing to me about this whole ordeal is which companies only comply in Europe, where they're legally required, and those who have gone ahead and made sure they are compliant globally: It defines the difference between people ensuring your privacy rights because they have to, where they have to, and those ensuring your privacy rights globally because it's the right thing to do.

Google's AMP project just introduced a whole set of new features not just to mark whether or not an EU user has consented to tracking, but also a new feature to geolocate users, specifically for the purpose of determining if they're legally required to get that consent. Which is sad to me; they should be getting user consent everywhere.