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Re:Big companies collude to hold down pay. by muhfuhkuh on Friday September 17, 2010 @01:26AM (#1700245)
That's what "solid B+" players are for: the rented lakehouse party, the corporate kumbayas and sufficiently-buzzed Wednesdays at the bar across the man-made pond in the drab, suburban office park. That's where A+ players go to die. That's why even at mid-sized software companies, we didn't hire the A+ players because they make hiring managers and peers feel stupid and impotent.

I should know: I'm a B+ player.

And, if by "illicit leisure" you mean "smokes the herb", I think you'll find that alot of guru type hackers are WAY into that kinda stuff. In fact, at my company, our HR technical recruiter once said that if corporate all of a sudden started random drug testing, half of the developers would be gone before they could read THC on the LabCorp printout.

Re:Big companies collude to hold down pay. by arethuza on Friday September 17, 2010 @04:40AM (#1700485)
On the recreational pharmaceuticals point...

Year ago we were getting our second round of VC investment from a group of companies that included an American VC company (we were in the UK and our first round had been from UK VCs only).

I remember saying to our dev team "these guys want compulsory drug testing for all staff" (I was joking) - the looks of horror on the faces of the best developers in the team were priceless.

Re:Big companies collude to hold down pay. by brlewis on Friday September 17, 2010 @06:42AM (#1700663)
I've never used illegal drugs, and I would be horrified myself at that kind of request. I would see it as an indicator the VC company wanted a distrustful, adversarial relationship.
Re:Big companies collude to hold down pay. by arethuza on Friday September 17, 2010 @08:10AM (#1700829)
They didn't - I was joking about it :-)