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Re:NSA collected 500M U.S. call records in 2017, a sharp ris... by fulafel on Saturday May 05, 2018 @08:49AM (#17001592)
Taking this view lets the voters off the hook too easily. Citizens often genuinely want things that are bad for a bunch of other people. Look at the immigration/refugee related polling for example. Or climate change inaction.

Sure the public opinion is affected by PR efforts, but people still possess facilities for critical thinking, and everyone knows to be critical about political claims rather than take them at face value.

Re:NSA collected 500M U.S. call records in 2017, a sharp ris... by coldtea on Saturday May 05, 2018 @09:42AM (#17001752)
>Taking this view lets the voters off the hook too easily. Citizens often genuinely want things that are bad for a bunch of other people. Look at the immigration/refugee related polling for example. Or climate change inaction.

Voters might want lots of things, but do they get them though, when those things don't align with what those in power want?

Re:NSA collected 500M U.S. call records in 2017, a sharp ris... by stickdogg on Saturday May 05, 2018 @11:39AM (#17002239)
The truth is that not "everyone" knows to be critical about political nonsense. Plus, most people I encounter in this state of PA have no idea what the term "critical thinking" implies; let alone deliberately practice it. PA is in the dark ages compared to Seattle. It's extremely sad to see.
Re:NSA collected 500M U.S. call records in 2017, a sharp ris... by dsfyu404ed on Saturday May 05, 2018 @09:19PM (#17004799)
Hate to break it to you but critical thinking is just as lacking in progressive urban areas. Seattle, Boston, Denver, NYC, (let alone the valley) are chock full of idiots who do not think about how public policy impacts anyone but themselves. You just don't judge as critically when it's your people.
Re:NSA collected 500M U.S. call records in 2017, a sharp ris... by mr_spothawk on Saturday May 05, 2018 @12:08PM (#17002397)
yah, but the Steelers! did u see that game last weekend?

/s