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Re:NSA collected 500M U.S. call records in 2017, a sharp ris... by pfortuny on Saturday May 05, 2018 @07:53AM (#17001434)
Looking at the benefits is the wrong way to solve a problem because it prioritizes the wrong thing: ends become an excuse for bad means.
Re:NSA collected 500M U.S. call records in 2017, a sharp ris... by blitmap on Saturday May 05, 2018 @08:04AM (#17001453)
I do agree that the negatives of dragnet surveillance disproportionately harms society - much greater than the net-positives. I just don't feel like we have enough transparency to correctly scale that bar graph.
Re:NSA collected 500M U.S. call records in 2017, a sharp ris... by stickdogg on Saturday May 05, 2018 @11:59AM (#17002347)
How much more transparency do you desire? Personally I don't need any chart or measuring stick to show me what's dangerous.
Re:NSA collected 500M U.S. call records in 2017, a sharp ris... by blitmap on Thursday May 17, 2018 @12:48PM (#17092995)
I fully believe dragnet surveillance is dangerous. My point is, I can't just say "Dragnet surveillance is dangerous." A well-formed argument has citations and metrics and something to show relative scale. The people pushing for dragnet surveillance (those people in positions of authority) feel like they're keeping us safe and doing what needs to be done - and that we just don't understand. We need to KNOW exactly how much surveillance harms us - we cannot argue with blanket statements.