Re:Visual Studio Code Will Replace Visual Studio
by rstat1 on Saturday May 05, 2018 @12:36AM
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VS itself isn't fully 64 bit. All the important bits are (like the compilers and such) just not the main VS app.
Also they aren't very good at the collecting part if they let you just disable, and make it known that you can, while also providing versions (the OSS version) that don't even have the data collectors.
Re:Visual Studio Code Will Replace Visual Studio
by userbinator on Saturday May 05, 2018 @01:03AM
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Also they aren't very good at the collecting part if they let you just disable, and make it known that you can, while also providing versions (the OSS version) that don't even have the data collectors.
It's opt-out, not opt-in, and how many people will bother to? Things like this don't really inspire confidence either:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/40451596/visual-studio-c...
Re:Visual Studio Code Will Replace Visual Studio
by cup-of-tea on Saturday May 05, 2018 @01:14AM
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What kind of shoddy programming means it can't just be compiled for 64 bit? Why would they bake the word size so deeply into a program like that?
Re:Visual Studio Code Will Replace Visual Studio
by Karliss on Saturday May 05, 2018 @02:39AM
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Last time i checked c++ debugger still used 16 bit line numbers. My attempts to make a plugin for vs also left an impression that it contains large amount of modules glued together using various technologies. Things like 5 layers of c# API wrappers named api10, api20, api30 on top of some c code communicating using COM objects. I wouldn't be surprised if they still had some third party libraries for which they only have a binaries and vendor doesn't exist anymore.
Re:Visual Studio Code Will Replace Visual Studio
by pzone on Saturday May 05, 2018 @01:37AM
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Compilers and IDEs are resource intensive pieces of software and VS is over twenty years old. I can imagine innumerable opportunities over the years to increase performance by assuming the size of certain variables in memory. That kind of stuff would have been a big deal when compiling C++ on a 333mhz processor.
Re:Visual Studio Code Will Replace Visual Studio
by vvanders on Saturday May 05, 2018 @12:37AM
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Nah, MS has always given away their suites of software for free(Visual Studio, etc) to students and the like. VSCode is probably the same with a smooth integration for Azure, .net and TypeScript.
You can also turn off the data collection.
Re:Visual Studio Code Will Replace Visual Studio
by userbinator on Saturday May 05, 2018 @01:07AM
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to students and the like
The business justification there is easy to see: get them hooked on your products when they're young, so they'll ask for the same when they start working.
What? I've used Visual Studio to work on 64-bit applications.
Thus comes in VS Code, a free, cross platform IDE that supports all modern languages.
It's only "free" because you're paying for it in other ways than money:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_Studio_Code#Data_collec...
Quite frankly I find it disturbing --- what used to be software you paid for and then you would be left alone to, is now "free" pseudo-SaaS that is funded by the collection and sale of user data.