NSA collected 500M U.S. call records in 2017, a sharp rise: official report

Re:NSA collected 500M U.S. call records in 2017, a sharp ris... by DSingularity on Saturday May 05, 2018 @12:12AM (#17000276)

I believe they behave the way they do because this is their strategy by design. I feel that during the Cold War strategists realized that being a democracy is a vulnerability. Were the soviets actually willing to go there and exploit it by manipulating the American public? Who knows. But that’s not how military strategy is created.

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Re:NSA collected 500M U.S. call records in 2017, a sharp ris... by stickdogg on Saturday May 05, 2018 @11:43AM (#17002258)

The Russians and Chinese manipulate the American public every day all day. Not to mention the Americans and Western Europeans with money and influence whose interests align with theirs. How do you think we ended up with president chump?

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Re:NSA collected 500M U.S. call records in 2017, a sharp ris... by jrochkind1 on Sunday May 06, 2018 @02:10AM (#17005451)

And likewise, the Americans do their best to manipulate the public of dozens of other countries, daily.

The shocking thing to Americans is they thought they were too powerful to ever be on the receiving end.

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Re:NSA collected 500M U.S. call records in 2017, a sharp ris... by amrx101 on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @11:49PM (#17027290)

This. After WW2 US has been doing adventures through illegal interventions in Asia and Latin America all with disastrous consequences. This is just Karma payback.

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Re:NSA collected 500M U.S. call records in 2017, a sharp ris... by prmths on Sunday May 06, 2018 @12:24PM (#17006950)

> The Russians and Chinese manipulate the American public every day all day

So does our media, government agencies, NGOs, Canada, Britain, Israel and many european nations. But lets scapegoat the russians and the chinese.

> How do you think we ended up with president chump?

Certainly not because of the chinese or europeans. The chinese and europeans wanted hillary to win.

Let me ask, did the chinese and russians get obama elected? I love how easily people are brainwashed by the media. They say something and the mindless just repeat it.

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Re:NSA collected 500M U.S. call records in 2017, a sharp ris... by Bizarro on Saturday May 05, 2018 @11:58AM (#17002343)

How do you think we ended up with president chump?

No. The alternative is a crook.

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Re:NSA collected 500M U.S. call records in 2017, a sharp ris... by jMyles on Saturday May 05, 2018 @12:21PM (#17002458)

...well, it's possible that that's part of the manipulation too.

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Re:NSA collected 500M U.S. call records in 2017, a sharp ris... by ionised on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @06:25AM (#17028747)

And Trump isn't a crook? lol

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Re:NSA collected 500M U.S. call records in 2017, a sharp ris... by wavefunction on Saturday May 05, 2018 @06:40PM (#17004274)

It's not really an alternative if Trump is also a crook, which he is.

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Re:NSA collected 500M U.S. call records in 2017, a sharp ris... by mr_spothawk on Saturday May 05, 2018 @12:08PM (#17002394)

i dont think these problems started during the cold war.

much earlier... i think it began when the federal power began to chip away at the state power.

theres no vulnerability in having a friendly northern ally, no eastwest neighbors, and a subjugation economy to the south. the vulnerability is internal, to the thinkers and activists... so lets keep them chained by debt & chasing tail & feeling scared

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Re:NSA collected 500M U.S. call records in 2017, a sharp ris... by Tasboo on Sunday May 06, 2018 @06:52AM (#17005993)

"When the federal power began to chip away at state power"

This has been a thing since the Constitution was ratified.

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