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Re:The rise of the pointless job by jopsen on Friday May 04, 2018 @06:45PM (#16999041)
In the US you often see people holding a sign saying "slow" next to construction or road work.

This is a job that could literally be automated with a pole :)

Re:The rise of the pointless job by dizzystar on Saturday May 05, 2018 @03:13AM (#17000765)
You'd be surprised. Cars will burn a sign, but they'll stop dead when they see a person holding a sign.

You also have to watch for the pedestrians walking around and so on. It's actually a lot more involved than you think.

I did it a few times. Not hard, but it does matter a lot, and definitely not pointless.

Re:The rise of the pointless job by jopsen on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @11:36AM (#17021683)
I can't help but ask, how about a wax sculpture? hehe :)

But, yeah you have a point.

Re:The rise of the pointless job by ouid on Friday May 04, 2018 @07:23PM (#16999239)
Those signs say stop on the other side and are used in conjuction with someone on the other end of the construction holding up the opposite sign so that a single lane can be used to handle traffic in two directions. That job would need to be automated with a traffic light.
Re:The rise of the pointless job by kleiba on Saturday May 05, 2018 @07:28AM (#17001360)
In Germany, no-one is holding stop/slow signs at any construction site. This job is universally done by portable traffic lights.
Re:The rise of the pointless job by jpetso on Friday May 11, 2018 @12:17PM (#17048537)
In Germany, people respect traffic lights even when there's no one there to enforce your good behavior.
Re:The rise of the pointless job by marcosdumay on Friday May 04, 2018 @07:33PM (#16999282)
A smart traffic light that can count how any cars enter and exit the zone. It's perfectly possible to automate, but it may not be the best ROI around.
Re:The rise of the pointless job by Ma8ee on Saturday May 05, 2018 @02:37AM (#17000659)
They are common in Sweden for slower roads and streets. I’m quite certain they don’t count the cars, instead just leaving enough time even for slow cars to pass through.
Re:The rise of the pointless job by briandear on Saturday May 05, 2018 @10:36AM (#17001979)
That also breaks down when they need to fully stop traffic from both sides so a equipment can be moved. How do you tell the automated lights to stop everything automatically when those instances are irregular.
Re:The rise of the pointless job by girvo on Saturday May 05, 2018 @12:37PM (#17002524)
You press a button. I’m not joking either, they have a way to program them quickly for exactly this reason. Set them on a cycle, or turn them to manual.
Re:The rise of the pointless job by Clubber on Friday May 04, 2018 @09:09PM (#16999686)
The system would also need to detect which direction the traffic was going. In morning rush hour, outbound would be much heaver than inbound (of your neighborhood) so it would typically be unidirectional.
Re:The rise of the pointless job by nitrogen on Saturday May 05, 2018 @01:08AM (#17000433)
I've seen such lights in remote construction sites on road trips. They do exist.
Re:The rise of the pointless job by ghaff on Saturday May 05, 2018 @03:34AM (#17000815)
It’s not uncommon in the US West where you may have lengthy stretches of road that are single lane because of construction.
Re:The rise of the pointless job by epc on Friday May 04, 2018 @09:39PM (#16999808)
I was that guy as a kid, at least for road work. The role rotated through my crew while everyone else worked in the manhole or on the street. Part of the reason for it to be a human is to serve as a witness for the police when a distracted driver plows into the road crew. This was in the 1980s, I’m sure drivers pay much more attention today.
Re:The rise of the pointless job by sverige on Friday May 04, 2018 @10:06PM (#16999913)
> This was in the 1980s, I’m sure drivers pay much more attention today.

Missing the /s. Drivers today are far worse than they were in the 80s.

Re:The rise of the pointless job by rangibaby on Saturday May 05, 2018 @09:25AM (#17001704)
I would say they are almost certainly less drunk now
Re:The rise of the pointless job by sverige on Saturday May 05, 2018 @09:43AM (#17001755)
But a lot more have been smoking weed.
Re:The rise of the pointless job by rangibaby on Saturday May 05, 2018 @10:00AM (#17001815)
TBF driving while tired is probably more dangerous than driving after smoking cannabis
Re:The rise of the pointless job by sverige on Saturday May 05, 2018 @05:50PM (#17004049)
I agree, but driving while high is not at all safe. Sure, it's less bad than drinking, but it's still more dangerous than driving when sober (and rested). Accident rates have gone up since legalization. [0,1,2]

[0] https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/21/auto-crashes-are-on-the-rise...

[1] http://gazette.com/study-finds-fatal-crashes-in-colorado-hav...

[2] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/26/what-...

Re:The rise of the pointless job by viridian on Saturday May 05, 2018 @05:39PM (#17003991)
It depends on what you measure. Crashes are going up ever so slightly vs population growth, but fatalities per crash has astoundingly been reduced by about 70%, which is to say that you were more than 3x as likely to die in crash in 1980 vs 2011.
Re:The rise of the pointless job by ciupicri on Saturday May 05, 2018 @10:08PM (#17004933)
That's because we have better cars now which offer better protection for passengers and pedestrians: seat belts, air bags, "softer" bumpers, collision detection, etc.
Re:The rise of the pointless job by 13of40 on Friday May 04, 2018 @08:42PM (#16999586)
I don't know about now, but when minimum wage was $4.75 those guys were making $20.00 an hour. It was a highly coveted job in some circles. They are starting to automate it with portable traffic lights though.
Re:The rise of the pointless job by interfixus on Saturday May 05, 2018 @04:43AM (#17000951)
I once saw a memorable setup on a fairly desolate piece of Queensland highway: There were three flagmen (as they are or were called Down Under) spaced over with a few hundred meters between them, each with a flag warning me to slow down, roadwork ahead. At the other end three others, of course, to take care of traffic in the opposite direction.

But here's the thing: There wasn't any roadwork in between. There had been, but everything was neatly packed away.

Then again, I've worked in public administration. Nothing will shock me.

Re:The rise of the pointless job by TheSpiceIsLife on Saturday May 05, 2018 @04:50AM (#17000964)
The first lollypop bearer in each direction was indicating the presence of five other people at work on the road.
Re:The rise of the pointless job by glangdale on Saturday May 05, 2018 @02:38AM (#17000661)
They are almost exclusively female Irish backpackers here in Australia from what I hear. Usually the only females on a crew.