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Re:Lisp, Jazz, Aikido by mathw on Friday May 04, 2018 @09:26AM (#16994417)
Just like aikido, the teaching of other arts also varies... and yet those who like to badmouth us at every opportunity will assume the worst aikido school in the world is exactly representative of all of us.

And there is some utter nonsense out there, definitely. But we're hardly unique in that.

Re:Lisp, Jazz, Aikido by rusk on Friday May 04, 2018 @09:38AM (#16994492)
I'd never call Krav Maga an "art" though .. it's solely about brutal pragmatics.
Re:Lisp, Jazz, Aikido by mmirate on Friday May 04, 2018 @12:59PM (#16996119)
(a) Then how should Sun Tzu have entitled his famous work, if not "The Art of War"?

(b) Krav Maga is clearly a highly time- and energy-efficient tool for hand-to-hand combat; why should any martial art strive for any different metrics? (other than coping with exceptional circumstances via malicious compliance, such as that old French martial-art that focuses entirely on kicks not fists)

Re:Lisp, Jazz, Aikido by rusk on Friday May 04, 2018 @03:16PM (#16997388)
I have no response for (a) except to say that there’s an exception to every rule.

(b) has been treated extensively in many discussions. These usually are usually oriented around the role of conflict in daily life and the suitability of these arts as a way of dealing with them, for instance.

Re:Lisp, Jazz, Aikido by mmirate on Friday May 04, 2018 @03:35PM (#16997532)
> conflict in daily life and the suitability of these arts as a way of dealing with them

Good grief! I can't imagine the amount of paperwork that would accumulate if fighting was a day-to-day occurrence in my life (except in Army during wartime, where assault is the job instead of a crime).

Re:Lisp, Jazz, Aikido by rusk on Saturday May 05, 2018 @04:26AM (#17000922)
You see, that’s where you’re missing the point entirely ... there’s more to conflict than violence ...
Re:Lisp, Jazz, Aikido by mmirate on Sunday May 06, 2018 @05:08PM (#17008556)
Mars being the god of war, calling something a Martial art denotes that it is suitable for conflicts that have escalated all the way to war/violence. My previous statement meant to imply my hope that martial arts are not suitable for the vast majority of conflicts that occur in daily life.