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Re:20 Years of Crunch Take Their Toll on a Game Developer by jjoonathan on Thursday May 03, 2018 @10:02PM (#16991685)
'Overtime' is paid, crunch is not.
Re:20 Years of Crunch Take Their Toll on a Game Developer by montyf on Thursday May 03, 2018 @10:53PM (#16991874)
That's not true at all. Overtime can most definitely be unpaid, and usually is.
Re:20 Years of Crunch Take Their Toll on a Game Developer by jjoonathan on Thursday May 03, 2018 @11:51PM (#16992062)
By the legal definition, sure, but in common usage the word "overtime" is usually qualified as "unpaid overtime" if that's the case.

Invoking the word "overtime" to mean "unpaid overtime," especially by young team-members, typically results in uncomfortable coughs, silence, and expectation setting from managers / senior members of the team, none of which would be necessary if, like the word "crunch," the unqualified word carried no connotation of payment. I've seen this happen many times in a number of settings so I'm pretty sure it's not just a regional quirk. Connotations are important.

Re:20 Years of Crunch Take Their Toll on a Game Developer by hug on Friday May 04, 2018 @12:46AM (#16992253)
No one I know specifies overtime as unpaid or paid. It is simply time that is worked over the amount normally worked, and may be paid or not.

Of my friends, I know if some of them say they worked overtime they mean unpaid, and I know if some of them say they worked overtime they're getting a fat paycheque.

Re:20 Years of Crunch Take Their Toll on a Game Developer by Nomentatus on Friday May 04, 2018 @06:35PM (#16998976)
Legal reference? (This is a matter of law, re engineer's compensation.)
Re:20 Years of Crunch Take Their Toll on a Game Developer by em3rgent0rdr on Thursday May 03, 2018 @10:59PM (#16991904)
and couldn't crunch also be paid?
Re:20 Years of Crunch Take Their Toll on a Game Developer by tomrod on Thursday May 03, 2018 @10:53PM (#16991875)
Unless you are "Salary Exempt," in the which case overtime is not paid.