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Re:'Anti-authority' tech rebels take on ISPs, connect NYC wi... by notyourday on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @03:59PM (#16980622)
It depends on the location. If you are talking about downtown Manhattan you can get dark fiber between any major buildings for about $5k/mo. If you are not in a mojor building then Zayo would do it for about $20k build out worst case scenario + same $5k/mo, since Zayo touches a boatload of manholes. There was also Metro Optical but I dont know how large is their footprint. They are quite creative.

But in general, go to a decent building and order Cogent. That gets your building on the net. Cogent eats fiber extension charges left and right. Plus you actually get 1Gbit/sec for $500/mo. Now you take that 1Gbit/sec and wire to neighboring buildings by running ethernet or standard yellow fiber. That's how ghetto ISPs get stuff done. It was done for years because it works. There's incentive for those who own building to form a community ISP or provide an access to a community ISP because those that own builds want the same product and they know they can share some of the costs.

Re:'Anti-authority' tech rebels take on ISPs, connect NYC wi... by isostatic on Thursday May 03, 2018 @02:12AM (#16983711)
Yes, that sounds about right -- we pay about $4k for 1gig midtown-midtown

However GTT offered me 1gig from New York office to London Docklands for $2400! Under $2k for p2p to office in Washington DC.

If local internet is $500pcm , get two lines into the building for $1k/month, charge 50 people $30 a month and give them 1 gig and 25:1 contention ratio, plus the cost of dropping the fibre and a router, leaving $6k a year. It's not going to give you a full time job, but will give you some decent internet and a bit of pocket money to look after it.

Re:'Anti-authority' tech rebels take on ISPs, connect NYC wi... by notyourday on Thursday May 03, 2018 @09:07AM (#16985606)
There are actually a lot more interesting things that you can do:

Order an SDI video circuit from VZ to one of the interconnect buildings. That's $1.5K/mo but it is delivered as a point to point single mode fiber with VZ gear being plugged in. After they install it and leave unplug VZ gear. Plug in your 10G. You just got yourself a 10G transport for $1.5K/mo.

Re:'Anti-authority' tech rebels take on ISPs, connect NYC wi... by notyourday on Monday May 14, 2018 @09:55AM (#17065520)
Remember, because it is SDI there's no way for VZ gear to know that it is actually unplugged.
Re:'Anti-authority' tech rebels take on ISPs, connect NYC wi... by ybloviator on Thursday May 03, 2018 @01:25PM (#16987876)
$4K sounds incredibly overpriced.