Re:Both in rich and poor countries, universal health care br...
by Consultant32452 on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @11:43AM
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The fact that some people or nations behave in a particular way does not in any way determine whether that behavior is moral.
Re:Both in rich and poor countries, universal health care br...
by ordinaryradical on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @12:03PM
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States in and of themselves aren’t moral under your framework because they can only exist by threat and use of force.
But some of us are interested in solutions for the real world instead of the debating the merits of unfeasible utopias.
I, too, would enjoy a stateless peaceful utopia of equitable commerce, but that has zero bearing on how we should decide public policy. Foraging for utopias is the same kind of naïveté Marxists trot out again and again and were it ever enacted at scale it would lead to the same kind of human suffering.
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Re:Both in rich and poor countries, universal health care br...
by RobertoG on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @01:48PM
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Fair enough. What is that minimum?
The proposed minimum is always to grant the needed power to cover unlimited property rights, but not universal healthcare.
Re:Both in rich and poor countries, universal health care br...
by Consultant32452 on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @02:12PM
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It would be difficult to impossible for me to try to think of every feasible scenario in a HN post, but here's some off the top of my head: national defense, stopping people from physically harming others, enforce voting rights, establish trade agreements with other nations, etc.
In many places in the real world, universal government insurance is already in place. This isn’t some hypothetical.