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Re:I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report by thomastjeffery on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @11:47AM (#16968069)
And that is entirely Apple's fault.

That is one of my main frustrations with Apple: In order to compel more people to use their platform, they made a proprietary communication service, and preloaded it on all of their devices. Now I have to deal with this arbitrary segregation, just because some corporation decided it would help their bottom line.

This is exactly the kind of practice rms warned us about decades ago, and there is nothing any individual can do about it.

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Re:I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report by mistermann on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @02:06PM (#16969633)
> And that is entirely Apple's fault.

If Skype didn't suck so much it could be the cross platform standard.

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Re:I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report by s73v3r_ on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @01:48PM (#16969403)
Google Duo works just fine on iPhones.
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Re:I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report by thomastjeffery on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @02:41PM (#16970036)
The problem is that it isn't preinstalled, while iMessage and Facetime are.

Apple tries very hard to convince its users that its practices are not the problem, but those who choose not to use Apple products. Anything that doesn't come preinstalled is seen as an unnecessary inconvenience by most iPhone users.

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Re:I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report by s73v3r_ on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @02:44PM (#16970087)
Given that the app is free, and that people are willing to install apps their friends recommend, I don't think this is much of a barrier.

WhatsApp doesn't seem to have this issue, for instance.

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Re:I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report by thomastjeffery on Thursday May 03, 2018 @03:08AM (#16983925)
> I don't think this is much of a barrier.

Unfortunately, many iOS users do, and Apple cultivates that attitude as its culture.

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Re:I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report by s73v3r_ on Thursday May 03, 2018 @12:20PM (#16987305)
No, they just prefer what iOS provides, or they don't know many people who use WhatsApp. For all it's popularity elsewhere, here in the States, WhatsApp is not used very much.

I've never downloaded WhatsApp, mainly because I don't know anyone who's on it. That's a bigger barrier than anything being preinstalled.

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