Re:California Supreme Court Transforms the Test for Who Is a...
by unholythree on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @02:06AM
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My thoughts exactly. Some people seem to be reading this ruling as though no "tech company" could hire any "tech contractor". However, I read it: if a hypothetical company doesn't for example design databases as their bread and butter they could hire someone else to.
Re:California Supreme Court Transforms the Test for Who Is a...
by mattmanser on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @10:06AM
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In the UK contractors tend to get hired as temporary stop gaps at a much higher rate than perms (like double).
Either to cover a need for a project that won't last long term or to fill the demand for more fingers on keyboards right now.
Is that not how the US uses them? Then again UK programmers seem to earn much less than US programmers. Outside London it's like £50k for a senior dev ($70k?).
Re:California Supreme Court Transforms the Test for Who Is a...
by walshemj on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @10:20AM
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I think 50k is London rate - outside 40+ would be a lot
Re:California Supreme Court Transforms the Test for Who Is a...
by mattmanser on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @10:33AM
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Not these days, I'm constantly getting emails offering £45-50k for East Midlands jobs, up from £40-45k the year or two before. 4 years ago I got offered 3 jobs in the East Midlands at or close enough to £40k, with one having bonuses too.
You can go check on any job site, indeed, cwjobs, whatever. CWJobs claim the average is up to £62k for London now, and that's of all dev jobs, not just senior ones:
https://www.cwjobs.co.uk/salary-checker/average-csharp-devel...
Re:California Supreme Court Transforms the Test for Who Is a...
by ddingus on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @05:06AM
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Indeed. I simply wanted to highlight an effective and practical contractor.
Not so sure I disagree with CA overall.
Re:California Supreme Court Transforms the Test for Who Is a...
by walshemj on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @10:19AM
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How so? if you sign a contract for several month's as a plc your better off than a regular employee with only 2 weeks notice is easier to hire as they have no contract.
Re:California Supreme Court Transforms the Test for Who Is a...
by jMyles on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @01:21AM
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Yeah?
I think that, taken literally, I'd be 0/3 in the ABC system.
Re:California Supreme Court Transforms the Test for Who Is a...
by opencl on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @10:40AM
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Employees can be terminated easily though, at will employment means any employee can be dismissed at any time with zero notice without cause.
Re:California Supreme Court Transforms the Test for Who Is a...
by bluGill on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @11:40AM
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Legally, but not socially. If a company eliminates contractors well the contract was over. If they eliminate employees that is bad for moral. (except for the rare employee who could be gotten rid of "for cause" in even the strictest system)
Such a contractor would likely meet the new "ABC" standard in the linked article, though. Those aren't the positions that are in danger of being eliminated, it's the "grunt contractor" folks who are contractors only because the employer wants to keep a buffer of positions that are active but can be terminated easily.