Re:Alphabet's Median Pay Nears $200k
by tway2888888 on Monday April 30, 2018 @09:57AM
(#16958579)
>Imagine the most useless, technically incompetent, lazy sack of flesh that you were unfortunate enough to share the title of "engineer" with(and office space too). In a union, they'd be very nearly impossible to fire, and based on tenure would probably make more than most of their peers.
I worked 4 years in a Canadian Auto Workers unionized plant. This is not my experience, whatsoever.
If you do your job, you can't be fired because you rub your manager the wrong way (imagine that?). If you don't, there's a process to fire employees. A union is just that: a union of people. If you're a cancerous employee, the union doesn't want to work with you either.
Why doesnt that happen enough in current unionizes jobs ?
Re:Alphabet's Median Pay Nears $200k
by mkirklions on Monday April 30, 2018 @10:04AM
(#16958636)
This does happen in current union jobs.
There is a reason for outsourcing, and its not just cost.
>gosh what the tech industry could accomplish with a union
Much less than it does now.
I've had odd jobs at union places. I know career workers in union-dominated industries.
We don't want it within 10 miles of tech.
A fun thought experiment I ask people to do that usually puts this one to bed:
Imagine the most useless, technically incompetent, lazy sack of flesh that you were unfortunate enough to share the title of "engineer" with(and office space too).
In a union, they'd be very nearly impossible to fire, and based on tenure would probably make more than most of their peers.
Multiply ^^ said scenario over multiple tech companies and a few thousand workers, and see what happens.