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Re:StreetLend.com shuts down, citing GDPR regulations by dleslie on Monday April 30, 2018 @02:52AM (#16956354)
Why are you assuming that everything on the internet must be a revenue producing business?

Someone doing it for love or passion is now faced with GDPR compliance and the risks and hassle that come with it.

Re:StreetLend.com shuts down, citing GDPR regulations by matthewmacleod on Monday April 30, 2018 @02:58AM (#16956380)
I am assuming no such thing.

Just because you are not making revenue doesn’t mean that you don’t have to abide by regulation. The GDPR is intended to solve a very real and present issue; if you run a side project that deals with personal data, then the fact that it makes no money doesn’t mean that your mistreatment of personal data isn’t harmful!

Re:StreetLend.com shuts down, citing GDPR regulations by dleslie on Monday April 30, 2018 @03:03AM (#16956400)
I'd rather block all EU IPs than bother to break working technology that is operated and maintained freely.

How do you revoke PII from a distributed information system, like anything using a blockchain or distributed version control? You don't.

Re:StreetLend.com shuts down, citing GDPR regulations by matthewmacleod on Monday April 30, 2018 @03:12AM (#16956437)
You can. You just need to think about it and have the correct controls in place.

If you choose to block all EU IPs instead of implementing the most basic data security and retention policies, then it’s for the best that EU users are not able to use your compromised service.

Re:StreetLend.com shuts down, citing GDPR regulations by dleslie on Monday April 30, 2018 @03:14AM (#16956447)
You cannot force peers of any decentralized distributed system to forget data. They can pretend to and appear as compliant peers and yet retain the data.
Re:StreetLend.com shuts down, citing GDPR regulations by matthewmacleod on Monday April 30, 2018 @03:17AM (#16956462)
Then why are you storing PII on them?
Re:StreetLend.com shuts down, citing GDPR regulations by dleslie on Monday April 30, 2018 @03:19AM (#16956475)
Have you ever used git and supplied a username and email as your author? That's PII in a distributed service that cannot be revoked.
Re:StreetLend.com shuts down, citing GDPR regulations by nocha on Monday April 30, 2018 @05:10AM (#16956999)
That is also PII being used for the purpose it was collected for (identifying a contributor) and I believe falls under Art.6(1)(f) of the GDPR. You would likely have a hard time convincing anybody that you can apply the right to be forgotten to a git repo - especially as that particular processing can be argued to not be requiring consent once you have submitted your commits.
Re:StreetLend.com shuts down, citing GDPR regulations by dleslie on Monday April 30, 2018 @10:43AM (#16958915)
The author details are not necessary for the core function of git; the change itself does not need the PII. Moreover, my concern is general for when PII is in such a distributed system; git is just one example of many.
Re:StreetLend.com shuts down, citing GDPR regulations by vertex-four on Monday April 30, 2018 @04:55AM (#16956919)
I've always felt that git is poorly designed for that reason. At the very least, there should be an "identity block" that commits etc point into, rather than embedding names, emails, and other identity information into immutable commits. Under GDPR, that's how it would've been designed in the first place. Of course, this'll never happen without a complete fork of git.

Once you've got that sorted and you can change/remove identity information, the likes of GitHub have no issue so long as they have GDPR-compliant contracts with any business partners who can access git repos. Obviously, anyone using GitHub who decides to store all identity data forever is, generally speaking, not GitHub's problem, same as someone who noted down the names of all their friends on Facebook isn't Facebook's problem.

Re:StreetLend.com shuts down, citing GDPR regulations by jimktrains2 on Monday April 30, 2018 @08:41AM (#16958068)
> I've always felt that git is poorly designed for that reason. At the very least, there should be an "identity block" that commits etc point into, rather than embedding names, emails, and other identity information into immutable commits.

Misuse of git isn't a problem inherent to git.

Re:StreetLend.com shuts down, citing GDPR regulations by vertex-four on Monday April 30, 2018 @09:21AM (#16958330)
Putting your name and email into commits is the default behaviour of git, and git will not work until you do so. This is design, not misuse.
Re:StreetLend.com shuts down, citing GDPR regulations by jimktrains2 on Monday April 30, 2018 @09:47AM (#16958503)
No, putting the name and email you give it, if you give it one, is by design.
Re:StreetLend.com shuts down, citing GDPR regulations by vertex-four on Monday April 30, 2018 @09:55AM (#16958564)
So the GDPR is entirely irrelevant because we could just give fake details to companies? And giving correct details to anyone, ever, is in fact “misuse”? That’s not how the law works, nor is it how it should work.
Re:StreetLend.com shuts down, citing GDPR regulations by jimktrains2 on Monday April 30, 2018 @10:08AM (#16958665)
This was specifically about git. However, it does appear that you need to at least provide a user identifier for git. I can understand why that would be useful in a distributed system. It could be opaque identifier, but you're points taken in this case.
Re:StreetLend.com shuts down, citing GDPR regulations by vertex-four on Monday April 30, 2018 @11:24AM (#16959362)
This was about git in the context of the GDPR, so a company (say, a git hosting provider) is by definition involved. If you're sending commits to other private developers in some way that doesn't involve a company storing the data, the right to be forgotten/right for records to be corrected/etc in the GDPR is irrelevant in the first place.
Re:StreetLend.com shuts down, citing GDPR regulations by DanBC on Monday April 30, 2018 @05:29AM (#16957075)
Can you explain how they managed to cope under the twenty or so years of things like data protection law or eg PECR?

Can you explain why they can cope with PECR but can't cope with GDPR?