Re:Stack Overflow Isn’t Very Welcoming – It’s Time for That ...
by dgreensp on Friday April 27, 2018 @01:15AM
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100% this. To say that the author of the post — whose job includes knowing whether women and minorities feel particularly unwelcome or not, based on actual data and talking to them — must have invented this point is rather outlandish. Based on what?
An online community can’t possibly be less welcoming to women, for example... because it has screen names? Because people don’t express open disdain for women like they do for newbies? You don’t have to be an expert on this stuff to know not to rush to hasty conclusions, especially in the face of evidence.
Re:Stack Overflow Isn’t Very Welcoming – It’s Time for That ...
by svick on Friday April 27, 2018 @01:00PM
(#16942328)
> To say that the author of the post — whose job includes knowing whether women and minorities feel particularly unwelcome or not, based on actual data and talking to them — must have invented this point is rather outlandish. Based on what?
Based on the fact that he did not share a bit of that data or any other kind of evidence. That's especially jarring on the Stack Overflow Blog, which is full of posts that are nothing but data.
It does not necessarily mean that there is no data, but it does make me suspicious.
Re:Stack Overflow Isn’t Very Welcoming – It’s Time for That ...
by cup-of-tea on Friday April 27, 2018 @02:35AM
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There was no evidence shown, though. That almost certainly means it doesn't exist. Maybe they do know that most programmers fit a particular stereotype (white/asian man), but that isn't because other people find stackoverflow "unwelcoming".
Re:Stack Overflow Isn’t Very Welcoming – It’s Time for That ...
by forapurpose on Friday April 27, 2018 @07:29PM
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> There was no evidence shown, though. That almost certainly means it doesn't exist.
OK, using that reasoning, what evidence do you have to support your statements? What evidence do you have that supports the reasoning quoted above?
Why would you say this with such conviction when you don't know anything about what the team is doing behind the scenes? They do yearly surveys that do include things like culture / minority status as well as questions about inclusion.
I can't help but feel like this is just another white male majority site jumping to shut down this type of discussion before it even starts.