Re:Ask HN: Is it morally right to automate jobs people want?
by arwineap on Thursday April 26, 2018 @05:15PM
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Can you expand on this?
> Minimum wage jobs for example make it a crime to have no skill.
Re:Ask HN: Is it morally right to automate jobs people want?
by Karishma1234 on Friday April 27, 2018 @07:59PM
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Imagine a 19 year old back teenager from a bad neighbourhood. He can't walk to a local McDonalds and offer to work for free or for $1 and hour and the McD manager will always find plenty to experienced people at $10 /hr. Government has made it a crime to employ anyone whose skills is worth below minimum wage.
Re:Ask HN: Is it morally right to automate jobs people want?
by slededit on Thursday April 26, 2018 @04:00PM
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In Canada it's between $25-$50 [1] depending on the test. The price of medical care in the USA has little relation to raw costs and if you approach it that way you will lose.
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/health/practitioner-pro/la...
Re:Ask HN: Is it morally right to automate jobs people want?
by Karishma1234 on Friday April 27, 2018 @08:03PM
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Does not matter. Will poor people be way better off with $1 per test ? They surely will.
Don't just think in terms of existing tests being cheaper, significantly lower price mean people might to do often, there might be automated testing machines installed everywhere which might detect many diseases way quicker and in early stage saving thousands of lives and much better medical research.
Re:Ask HN: Is it morally right to automate jobs people want?
by slededit on Saturday April 28, 2018 @02:42PM
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They would, but the point is that in the existing system the patient will never see the savings. An aspirin tablet is under a dollar at the drug store and $100 in the hospital right now, what makes you think it would change if it got cheaper by a factor of ten?
Re:Ask HN: Is it morally right to automate jobs people want?
by Karishma1234 on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @11:24PM
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Here is a question. Do you think Americans in 2018 are able to afford more complicated surgeries than 90s ? Increase that by factor of 10 if automation can reduce costs of various medical processes.
If we could invent a serious AI algorithm that can replace lab technician and drop this cost to $10 and $25 respectively. (Note that every single item in USA such as Cars, phones and bread is damn too cheap compared to mere 30 years ago).The lower cost of blood tests would save thousands of lives each year.
A small efficiency in making bread will save lives and put food on table of more people and improve sustainability of our planet.
It is not about jobs but efficiency. Making things more and more efficient is a moral imperative. It is something we need to do for the future generations.
Secondly, a cashier losing job is not as big a deal as people make it out to be because these people will do something else. Large availability of cheap labor can invent new industries as long as government does no criminalise being poor or skill less. Minimum wage jobs for example make it a crime to have no skill.
In future I imagine human beings with driving skills sitting a automated car simulators and teaching the cars to drive or clicking on images and video feeds to teach computers to get better while receiving am minimum wage.
Losing job is also something that makes a society ant-fragile and robust. Without laying off inefficient arms of the company you will haev a fragile North Korea/ Venezuella like economy.