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Re:Facebook Q1 2018 Earnings Slides [pdf] by putlake on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @07:31PM (#16927407)
> Post-Privacy means no one can get privacy even if they want it. That has never been the case.

We are already there.

3-letter govt agencies can listen track your calls, intercept your browsing and read your email.

Unless you pay in cash and shop only at your local mom and pop shop, your purchases are already being tracked and reported.

Your cellphone carrier is selling your information to third parties.[1]

You may not be on Facebook or WhatsApp but all your IRL friends and family are. They have your phone number in their contacts list and they have shared it with Google, Facebook, Twitter, Linkedin and God knows how many other companies. They have taken your pictures and tagged you.

Other than a very small number of privacy-conscious people, which includes living-off-the-grid doomsday preppers, the rest of the country is already there.

1. https://www.csoonline.com/article/3233211/security/mobile-ca...

Re:Facebook Q1 2018 Earnings Slides [pdf] by gm-conspiracy on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @07:40PM (#16927469)
Why do you assume everybody is using email, has a cellphone, and only buys goods from mega-corps?
Re:Facebook Q1 2018 Earnings Slides [pdf] by incongruity on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @11:21PM (#16928542)
Why do you assume they’re not?

Constraining the discussion to America, you’d be far more wrong to assume someone doesn't use the internet[1][2] or a cellphone.[3][4]

[1] http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/03/05/some-america... - Only 11% of American adults don’t use the internet. Of 18-24 year olds, only 2% don’t. 2%. Holding narrowly onto your assertion, the numbers are higher for poor, rural, elderly and non-high school graduates.

[2]http://www.pewinternet.org/2018/03/01/social-media-use-in-20... - 68% of adults use Facebook. 73% use YouTube. Looking at 18-24 year olds, 95% use YouTube.

[3]http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/06/28/10-facts-abo... - 77% of adults own a smartphone.

[4]http://www.pewinternet.org/fact-sheet/mobile/ - 95% of adults own a cellphone.

Shopping at mega corps? Well, it’s well documented that Walmart has done a good job of decimating local economies and there is definitely a homogenization of retail options in the US - but even if you don’t shop at one of them, if you use a credit or debit card, a mega-corp is tracking you. Doubly so if you use a smartphone.

Re:Facebook Q1 2018 Earnings Slides [pdf] by gm-conspiracy on Thursday April 26, 2018 @12:16PM (#16933238)
So 16 million people are nobody, huh?
Re:Facebook Q1 2018 Earnings Slides [pdf] by StudentStuff on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @09:36PM (#16928116)
Many HN readers have a very myopic view of the world, constraining their perspective to what they already know and do. There is a whole army of people out there that don't have cellphones, email and don't buy from mega-corps, but those who frequent HN have little knowledge of or connection to those who live exclusively in meatspace.
Re:Facebook Q1 2018 Earnings Slides [pdf] by JasonFruit on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @09:39PM (#16928133)
And license plate readers, and security cameras, and facial recognition, and gait recognition, and . . . and . . . ad infinitum.
Re:Facebook Q1 2018 Earnings Slides [pdf] by sanbor on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @08:17PM (#16927700)
What about 500 years ago where families would sleep all in the same floor and your parents would be having sex meters away from you? And the lords could do whateverthey wanted. There were not much privacy for most people at that time.