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Re:Stuck: Why the rent and mortgage-burdened don’t always mo... by DoreenMichele on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @03:16PM (#16925031)
Jose didn’t have a job lined up in Missouri. They certainly didn’t have the money for the moving costs; those would have to go on credit. Not to mention the fact that he’d also be leaving his home, his friends, and almost everything he knew behind in Colorado.

I moved someplace cheaper to get off the street. I did that in part by developing an online income under very challenging circumstances. I was able to make the move shortly after paying off my student loan.

On the one hand, we need more affordable housing. On the other, I see a lot of potential for reducing our current problems by providing more support for developing portable, flexible income via the internet.

What I did is not easy to arrange. It took me several years and I am certainly not in the lap of luxury yet.

I do get frustrated when people act like there is no housing crisis, there is plenty of cheap housing. Yeah, sure but it mostly isn't near employment centers. If you don't have an income, you can't afford housing, no matter how cheap it is.

The way to promote that idea without being a butt about it is to provide support for people to develop an online income instead of acting like they are just stupid or lazy that their life isn't working.

Re:Stuck: Why the rent and mortgage-burdened don’t always mo... by joe_the_user on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @03:28PM (#16925146)
On the other, I see a lot of potential for reducing our current problems by providing more support for developing portable, flexible income via the internet.

The problem is any online business involves competing with everyone on the Internet. Maybe the skills of fluent-in-American-English or leadership or persuasion or math or programming allow a few to make a decent income selling that unique thing. But any skill that can be mastered is going to have a flood of people learning it from all around world, reducing it's price online.

Re:Stuck: Why the rent and mortgage-burdened don’t always mo... by notyourday on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @04:00PM (#16925452)
In 10-20 years, sure. So for those 10-20 years we should encourage it.
Re:Stuck: Why the rent and mortgage-burdened don’t always mo... by gtirloni on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @06:47PM (#16927051)
I think that's already the reality today. Many comments here on HN talk about how hard it's to find any decent paying gigs on sites like Upwork due to global competition.
Re:Stuck: Why the rent and mortgage-burdened don’t always mo... by notyourday on Thursday April 26, 2018 @08:59AM (#16931434)
Because they are looking at the wrong places. Business that knows about UpWork already knows how to handle race to the bottom. 99% of businesses in the US do not.

Being a contract programmer is dating. Are you a super star with great skills and great personality? Fantastic, you can do equivalent of $550/h and still work 30-40 hour weeks ( translation: you are super hot, super fit and rich - you get to play with anyone you want ). Are you just OK? Well, start taking $30/h jobs that give you same 30-40 hours but live in a place where you can buy a house for $40k.

Re:Stuck: Why the rent and mortgage-burdened don’t always mo... by TheCoelacanth on Thursday April 26, 2018 @11:15AM (#16932624)
That requires you to have two valuable and difficult to learn skillset instead of just one. You have to be a good programmer and a good salesperson too. That is a tough bar to clear.
Re:Stuck: Why the rent and mortgage-burdened don’t always mo... by extr on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @04:51PM (#16926014)
"Everyone should develop an online income" is like the galaxy brain version of teaching truck drivers how to code. The n-gate blurb writes itself.
Re:Stuck: Why the rent and mortgage-burdened don’t always mo... by DoreenMichele on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @05:10PM (#16926202)
That's not remotely what I said. My main point is I wish folks with a lot of income and other privileges would stop saying things like "There's plenty of affordable housing! All you have to do is move to Detroit!"

If you want to take the position that people can just move someplace cheaper, the way to do that without being a jerk is to help facilitate that in some way instead of turning a blind eye to the reality that expensive places have jobs, cheap places tend to lack them and the housing crisis is very much real. It isn't a made up complaint.

Re:Stuck: Why the rent and mortgage-burdened don’t always mo... by toomuchtodo on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @05:45PM (#16926503)
Great point. Use taxes to make it expensive for companies to offer jobs where housing is expensive, and perform proper urban planning where land and housing is cheap to fix our previous mistakes (car centric, low density, non-mixed use).