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Re:Don’t buy the MacBook Pros even on sale, in my opinion by marcus_holmes on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @01:28PM (#16923859)
It's not Apple's great software. Most of Apple's software is shit (as opposed to 3rd parties who write OSX apps).

It's the fact that it's mostly-decent hardware running a mostly-compliant POSIX OS that looks enough like GNU to make it usable (and compatible with web servers).

If someone, ffs anyone, made a decent, reliable Linux laptop, Apple would lose the dev market in a month.

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Re:Don’t buy the MacBook Pros even on sale, in my opinion by kakwa_ on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @02:41PM (#16924654)
This is called a Thinkpad.

I'm running Debian on a Thinkpad at work, this work great... except for a few points.

It's always a bit harder to integrate with the rest of the internal infrastructure: * AD integration in your favorite email client to have auto-completion on emails is a bit tedious * Exchange calendars are also annoying * Mounting (and, first, finding) the windows shares can a bit tedious * Password renewal is not integrated that well

It works, but it takes a few hours to figure out and configure.

And sometimes you are just stuck with Windows/OS X because of a specific piece of software (for example in my case, the video conferencing tool we are using). I never used a truly Linux only environment in professional context, I always had a Windows VM also.

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Re:Don’t buy the MacBook Pros even on sale, in my opinion by nvarsj on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @06:00PM (#16926655)
> This is called a Thinkpad.

Indeed! The keyboard is amazing. The latest thinkpad x1 carbon is pure bliss, and Linux works out of the box for everything without any problems.

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Re:Don’t buy the MacBook Pros even on sale, in my opinion by spronkey on Friday April 27, 2018 @08:47PM (#16945528)
The latter point is not really true. There are plenty in web dev that need Adobe tools to open files. There are plenty in corporate environments that need Office to edit docs (Open/Libre doesn't really cut it for heavier stuff).

I share the frustration, mainly because both OS X and Windows are getting progressively worse over time as opposed to better, and the lack of a decent alternative is hugely frustrating.

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