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Re:Medicare will require hospitals to post prices online by andrewla on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @12:20PM (#16923069)
> A lot of people against socialized healthcare don't realize that the system still takes extra money from those that pay and gives it to those that can't--just through hospital billing.

In fact it's really the opposite; it takes extra money from those who can't pay (the uninsured) and gives it to those who can (the insured), because it's the insurance companies that negotiate the lower rates.

Re:Medicare will require hospitals to post prices online by kendallpark on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @12:37PM (#16923280)
It's more complicated than that. If you're uninsured, you can apply for aid. If your financial need is considered great enough, they might write off part or all of your bill. Hospitals set aside a certain amount of "charity" money to cover these cases (from the extra they get from other sources). In this case, the uninsured person is having their bill paid by others.

If you're uninsured and rich, well, you're paying sticker price and making the hospital very happy.

If you're uninsured and somewhere in the middle, you could be helped by the hospital, you could be screwed, really depends on the hospital.

Private insurance companies pay more than Medicare/Medicaid on basically all procedures. The price they negotiate is lower than the list price of a procedure, but remember, these sticker prices are hugely inflated. Hospitals will often raise the list price to renegotiate higher prices with insurers. In the end, I would suspect it is largely private insurance providing extra income for the hospitals (more common than cash patients, and they pay a greater % of the list price than Medicare).

Here's more info: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/hospitals-highest...

Re:Medicare will require hospitals to post prices online by tntn on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @12:24PM (#16923109)
Both happen. I think the point OP was making is that the cost for anyone who pays (insured or not) is higher in order to compensate for the required care to people who never pay.
Re:Medicare will require hospitals to post prices online by gowld on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @12:50PM (#16923432)
Obviously they aren't taking money from people who can't pay. They take money from people who can pay.