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Re:Addressing Recent Claims of “Manipulated” Blog Posts in t... by jrochkind1 on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @09:58AM (#16921533)
Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

They say they "declined to take down the archives"-- but they didn't in fact do this at all, they just insisted a request to take down the archives come in the form of a robots.txt, and they automatically and without review comply with all such requests in the form of a robots.txt. They don't in fact ever decline to take down any archives, if the request is properly given as a robots.txt.

I don't know why they bothered making statements about "declining to take down the archives" in the first place (to the journalist or to us), making comments about "Reid’s being a journalist (a very high-profile one, at that) and the journalistic nature of the blog archive" -- they did not in fact "decline to take down the archives" at all. The "journalistic nature of the archive" was in fact irrelevant. They took em down. They are down.

Re:Addressing Recent Claims of “Manipulated” Blog Posts in t... by ballenf on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @11:45AM (#16922618)
There may be one slight (and practically irrelevant) difference: the blog posts are still archived by the wayback machine, but it refused to serve them due to the robots.txt file.

If that file were to be removed, presumably the archive would again be served up upon request.

The lawyers were asking for the archive store itself to be wiped.

Re:Addressing Recent Claims of “Manipulated” Blog Posts in t... by flycaliguy on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @12:26PM (#16923135)
Yeah, I've come to appreciate that their frustrating robot.txt policy is actually a wise way for them to avoid chipping away at the complete archive. Obviously they have a mission that stretches far beyond the lifespan of todays internet users and the relevance of robot.txt files.
Re:Addressing Recent Claims of “Manipulated” Blog Posts in t... by fixed_carbon on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @02:49PM (#16924746)
My interpretation of what happened is that Ms. Reid's lawyers requested that specific posts within a full archive be removed from the archive. In other words, they weren't asking for removal of the entire archive. They just wanted a "sanitized" version to be accessible to the public.

The Internet Archive has a mechanism for doing this, as I understand it. It involves asserting copyright over the material in question and essentially "making a case" for removal. IA decided the case they made didn't pass muster, and denied specific removal on those grounds, which is why they mention "journalistic nature of the archive" and so forth.

But that's entirely orthogonal to their policy of treating active maintenance of robots.txt as indicative of positive copyright assertion over the contents of an entire domain -- which Ms. Reid's team appears to have taken as a fallback position. They couldn't get the sanitized archive they wanted, so they just made the whole thing invisible.

Re:Addressing Recent Claims of “Manipulated” Blog Posts in t... by jrochkind1 on Saturday April 28, 2018 @12:52PM (#16948471)
Why couldn't they get the sanitized archive they wanted with robots.txt, but just excluding the specific URLs they wanted excluded in robots.txt?