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Re:China, India grapple with the consequences too many men by socceroos on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @09:52AM (#16921481)
> If I do not control what happens to my body, what freedom do I have?

This argument is again one that rejects the moral responsibility to the human child growing in the body. The notion that discontent with the situation justifies killing a human doesn't stack up.

The point about the broken USA healthcare system will never justify the killing of unborn children. It also serves as a first-world excuse that is essentially based around inconvenience.

Finally, the argument that "others do horrible things so therefore why can't we do this horrible thing too" doesn't make any kind of sense either.

Re:China, India grapple with the consequences too many men by StellarTabi on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @11:55AM (#16922759)
It's not really horrible at all, terminating unwanted fetuses. What is horrible is being complelled against your will to bring an unwanted child into this world without the desire or ability to care for it, then knowing how backwards and broken the first world is, let alone even considering the third world, then there are some fucked up religious people who expect you to be a slave to their ideologies, even in a place that's suppose to be so nice they call it the first world.
Re:China, India grapple with the consequences too many men by socceroos on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @06:19PM (#16926825)
> It's not really horrible at all, terminating unwanted fetuses.

This is the crux of the issue though, isn't it. The desperate attempt to de-humanize the child so that, in some twisted way, it's OK to kill it before you feel bad.

Re:China, India grapple with the consequences too many men by StellarTabi on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @07:10PM (#16927256)
> you feel bad.

I only feel bad for those poor women living as a slave to their authoritarians husband in theocratic distopias and the women who are forced against their will, in the face of a system stacked against both them and their children, to bear an unwanted child because you value the life of the unborn over the lives of the living.