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Re:‘Bitcoin is a scam’ says Bill Harris, former CEO of PayPa... by justherefortart on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @09:12PM (#16918008)
I love it. It's just like all these MLM (Pyramid schemes) that have been reborn. I guess every generation has to relearn the lessons of the prior generations the hard way.

Comparing a nation's fiat to bitcoin is hilarious.

Here's what the USD is backed by. The nation's assets. And more importantly the nation's power to enforce their will upon you legally (via courts, police, military, etc.).

Re:‘Bitcoin is a scam’ says Bill Harris, former CEO of PayPa... by paulsutter on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @09:53PM (#16918143)
Actually the USD is backed by trading volumes. The courts, police, and military have little leverage over forex markets.

The Federal Reserve has been a fair steward of the dollar, with only a 96% devaluation since 1913. The curious can check the official numbers here:

https://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl

Re:‘Bitcoin is a scam’ says Bill Harris, former CEO of PayPa... by dustingetz on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @10:33PM (#16918275)
the military actually has quite a huge amount of influence over forex markets why do you think we invest in it? https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oil-priced-and-traded-in-U-S-do...
Re:‘Bitcoin is a scam’ says Bill Harris, former CEO of PayPa... by menotyou on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @06:37AM (#16920248)
No, actually a currency is not backed by a nations assets.

It is backed by the obligation to pay your taxes in that currency. I.e. every citizen with tax obligation (i.e. basically everybody) needs to collect Dollars to pay his tax bill. So everybody is willing to accept payments in that currency or in a currency which can be reasonably easy converted to Dollars.

As a topper sales tax creates a tax obligation on virtually all transactions within the society, so the need to own Dollars is directly bound to economic activity.

Re:‘Bitcoin is a scam’ says Bill Harris, former CEO of PayPa... by bmh_ca on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @07:27AM (#16920503)
> It is backed by the obligation to pay your taxes in that currency.

If it's a reserve currency, as the U.S. is, it is also backed by the demand of other states to hold U.S. dollars to stabilize their non-reserve currency.

Indeed, some argue that a reserve currency is not subject to ordinary balance of payments criteria. This is sometimes called exorbitant privilege.[1]

All to say, the U.S. currency is not just backed by assets of the nation, but by demand that other states have for local-currency stability.

Somewhat aside, some argue that this creates a perverted incentive to destabilize the world because unstable states and regions have a higher demand for a reserve currency.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exorbitant_privilege

Re:‘Bitcoin is a scam’ says Bill Harris, former CEO of PayPa... by marcell on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @09:54PM (#16918148)
Not sure if being backed by coercive force is a positive or negative :).

For a reference point, gold is another sovereign asset and it has held up pretty well over the years.

Re:‘Bitcoin is a scam’ says Bill Harris, former CEO of PayPa... by contoraria on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @11:20PM (#16918427)
I'm still assuming that gold has intrinsic technical value, only not directly to everyone, obviously. In the same vain, I guess the blockchain must have some inherent value, it's data after all, the gold of this century, and data concerning sha hashes at that. But from a glance I couldn't figure out how to use that as rainbow table or anything else.
Re:‘Bitcoin is a scam’ says Bill Harris, former CEO of PayPa... by cfadvan on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @10:04AM (#16921578)
The vast majority of the value of gold (more than 70%) is purely for jewelry. There is no shortage of gold for its technical uses, and if gold were no longer desirable for aesthetic purposes, there would be an enormous glut. By contrast platinum’s price is more dependent on its industrial use as a catalyst.
Re:‘Bitcoin is a scam’ says Bill Harris, former CEO of PayPa... by notoriousjpg on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @09:58PM (#16918166)
Isn't it moreso backed by our collective belief in it? Taking a leaf (or ten) from Sapiens here
Re:‘Bitcoin is a scam’ says Bill Harris, former CEO of PayPa... by asdsa5325 on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @10:43PM (#16918305)
It's not really a "belief", it's backed by the real things you can do with it. For example, if your currency is accepted by any real estate agent, your currency has real value far beyond belief, since property has real value in our society. This is what cryptocurrency lacks, and why it's value is overstated.
Re:‘Bitcoin is a scam’ says Bill Harris, former CEO of PayPa... by koonsolo on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @11:32PM (#16918466)
Houses have already been brought with bitcoin, even pizza's.
Re:‘Bitcoin is a scam’ says Bill Harris, former CEO of PayPa... by asdsa5325 on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @02:45PM (#16924697)
>For example, if your currency is accepted by any real estate agent
Re:‘Bitcoin is a scam’ says Bill Harris, former CEO of PayPa... by cfadvan on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @10:10PM (#16918203)
Most people don’t study history (or don’t learn its lessons) and as the saying goes, are doomed to repeat it. I think it’s worth remember ping that plenty, whatever they say publicly, are just trying to get rich and don’t really care how. $30million from exploiting the next fool spends just like any other money, as long as you’re not the last fool.
Re:‘Bitcoin is a scam’ says Bill Harris, former CEO of PayPa... by koonsolo on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @11:42PM (#16918494)
Re:‘Bitcoin is a scam’ says Bill Harris, former CEO of PayPa... by cfadvan on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @09:57AM (#16921530)
So I guess you didn't study the history of fiat...

...As written by two Blockchain sites. Ya got me.

Re:‘Bitcoin is a scam’ says Bill Harris, former CEO of PayPa... by koonsolo on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @11:16AM (#16922260)
You're shooting at the source, not the content.
Re:‘Bitcoin is a scam’ says Bill Harris, former CEO of PayPa... by cfadvan on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @02:22PM (#16924456)
“Consider the source.” Not to mention that the “conent” opening with “printing money is wealth theft” isn’t worth the time it took to read, never mind responding to it.
Re:‘Bitcoin is a scam’ says Bill Harris, former CEO of PayPa... by koonsolo on Thursday April 26, 2018 @04:24AM (#16930006)
I just wanted to show you a quick glance over the history of fiat money, and what happened after 2008 to the dollar.

> Most people don’t study history (or don’t learn its lessons) and as the saying goes, are doomed to repeat it.

Have a nice day.

Re:‘Bitcoin is a scam’ says Bill Harris, former CEO of PayPa... by koonsolo on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @11:13PM (#16918396)
Great comment! Can I send you 0.001 Euro for this? Oh no wait, I can't.

Do you accept the Nano cryptocurrency?

Welcome to the new world, were fiat will be an old dinosaur living in a digital world (and yes, I said world, not nation)

Re:‘Bitcoin is a scam’ says Bill Harris, former CEO of PayPa... by justherefortart on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @09:04AM (#16921133)
You seem to be taking this personally. It's quite funny.