Re:Things I Learned from a Job Hunt for a Senior Engineering...
by tintor on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @06:39PM
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"For negative performing people, I usually give them something kind of busy-work that doesn't involve the rest of the team."
Why waste time? Why not just fire them?
Re:Things I Learned from a Job Hunt for a Senior Engineering...
by AnimalMuppet on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @06:48PM
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Because you can get sued for firing them. Sued for multiples of their annual salary.
Re:Things I Learned from a Job Hunt for a Senior Engineering...
by freyir on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @08:09PM
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Then that's the heart of the problem, and it should be fixed.
Re:Things I Learned from a Job Hunt for a Senior Engineering...
by brianwawok on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @10:02PM
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How do you create laws that both
a) Protect a vulnerable class of people from being fired (say over 40 people)
and not
b) Require 30 forms when firring someone in that class for perfectly valid reasons
Seems really really hard to hit both. You need to err on one side or another.. which way do you go?
Re:Things I Learned from a Job Hunt for a Senior Engineering...
by freyir on Thursday April 26, 2018 @01:26PM
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Document repeated negative performance or toxic behavior and then act on it.
There are plenty of people in non-vulnerable classes who regularly do indefensible things because they know their companies won't act on it.
Re:Things I Learned from a Job Hunt for a Senior Engineering...
by Cookiesaurusbex on Thursday April 26, 2018 @02:32PM
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Untie a person's ability to survive from their employment status. If we had universal healthcare and basic income then the necessity of most of the employment laws would cease to exist.
Re:Things I Learned from a Job Hunt for a Senior Engineering...
by mixmastamyk on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @06:49PM
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Not so simple. Is their suit likely to be won? Are the unemployed able to pay expensive lawyer fees?
Re:Things I Learned from a Job Hunt for a Senior Engineering...
by mywittyname on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @02:55PM
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In my case, I do not have the authority to fire someone.
Even if you hire two do-nothings and a negative-performing person (consumes half an FTE's day in questions), you still end up with 6.5 productive people. And frankly, a 65% productive workforce is pretty damn good. I've seen lots of companies where <65% of people are productive.
Plus, some of the do-nothing people can be alright with some direction. Sometimes people don't get anything done because they just don't know what to do. I've been on so many teams where the manager said, "we need a person to do X" and they end up with some random person that doesn't really know how to do X. The solution that I've found is to find something they can do and have them work on that. Most projects have no shortage of work that's more time-consuming than difficult.
For negative performing people, I usually give them something kind of busy-work that doesn't involve the rest of the team. They might not be getting anything done, but they also (mostly) aren't weighing down the team by asking them questions all the time.