Re:Scientists plan huge European AI hub to compete with US
by ben_w on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @05:09AM
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Remote monitoring nuclear reactors for signs of weapons development: http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1742-6596/593/1/01...
Communication through any obstacles, including (in principle) the entire diameter of the planet: https://arxiv.org/abs/1203.2847
Re:Scientists plan huge European AI hub to compete with US
by mjfl on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @05:31AM
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Considering we have already have cheap things to detect nuclear proliferation, such as seismic detectors that have proven effective w/ North Korea and how expensive a neutrino detection system would be to build, I don't see any marginal benefit to humanity there. Considering the fact that you would need to build a beamline for any transmission of a neutrino message and a 5 ton detector to receive it (unlikely to be reduced since it's so hard to stop neutrinos) I'll stick with my > 50 year timeline for neutrino message passing being used in any practical sense. Maybe they could put it in a nuclear sub, but the design process would take 50 years, thanks to similar incentives built into the military industrial complex.
Re:Scientists plan huge European AI hub to compete with US
by ben_w on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @06:05AM
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Seismic can only detect an explosion. Neutrino can detect the construction. If the threat comes from someone who has reactors and already knows how to make bombs, seismic is too late.
A 5 ton detector isn’t particularly implausible in a whole range of scenarios.
Eat up. :)
Re:Scientists plan huge European AI hub to compete with US
by mjfl on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @06:55AM
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Still waiting...
Re:Scientists plan huge European AI hub to compete with US
by FridgeSeal on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @06:31PM
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Someone literally just provided you with an explanation of a possible application, you can't just dismiss their comment because you don't like it.
Re:Scientists plan huge European AI hub to compete with US
by GlennS on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @04:50AM
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Isn't there already an application of neutrinos: to detect nuclear material (so weapons inspection and so on)?
Re:Scientists plan huge European AI hub to compete with US
by FridgeSeal on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @06:34PM
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And how will we know what science is going to be useful and "profitable" until we do it?
I'm not even going to dive into the huge discussion that is "why profit driven science is an objectively terrible idea".
Not all science and research though. That's the whole point of my argument - we should direct funds towards projects that actually have tangible benefit to humanity in the future. I will eat my shoe if any application of neutrinos comes about in the next 50 years. Transistors? Great - those weren't invented by accident, and John Bardeen certainly deserves his two Nobel Prizes.