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Re:MIT Researchers Have Developed a ‘System for Dream Control’ by mjburgess on Monday April 23, 2018 @01:30PM (#16905543)
I think the converse is true, no?

That the shamanic practices will be pealed back, to reveal the familiar reality of scientific investigation.

I've had many lucid dreams, sleep paralysis, etc. "Navigating your dream state" seems really just like a lucid dream.

You're pretty much able to create a life-like world at whim in a lucid dream. The ability of the mind to hallucinate sensation in great depth is tremendous, and im sure, tied deeply to dreaming.

Re:MIT Researchers Have Developed a ‘System for Dream Control’ by psyc on Monday April 23, 2018 @04:26PM (#16907074)
The advantage to opening yourself to what is loosely called 'right brained' thinking, is that you don't have to wait around for someone to publish a rigorous study in a journal about the subject you're seeking a solution for. If I waited around for science as much as some HN users imply they do, I'd be paralyzed and barely ever make progress on things that matter to me.

I believe great scientists often start in wooville before they are able to distill science out of it. “Why should not a bold thinker have guessed something that is afterwards confirmed by sober and painstaking detailed research?” -Freud

Re:MIT Researchers Have Developed a ‘System for Dream Control’ by mjburgess on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @03:17AM (#16910567)
The generation of hypotheses is "right-brained thinking" in these terms.

Science is a process which includes the creative step of imagining a solution/explanation.

The differentiation between science and "systematic religous doctrine" is not in the character of the people, nor particularly in the way they think. Only that the scientist has an additional goal/duty to test his explanations.

Re:MIT Researchers Have Developed a ‘System for Dream Control’ by goodroot on Monday April 23, 2018 @01:44PM (#16905647)
That is an excellent point. I do agree that the converse is true. Together, now we are talking.
Re:MIT Researchers Have Developed a ‘System for Dream Control’ by thisiszilff on Monday April 23, 2018 @10:31PM (#16909423)
I don't think science will be able to say as much on the subject as one would like. "Navigating your own dream state" is a person making decisions about a world they themselves have created. There isn't much room for an objective observer there. In general, I don't think science is ever going to get a grip on consciousness. The whole "self observing the self" business makes it way too slippery a concept to get a grasp on in any satisfactory manor.