Sounds like.......... a framework
which hides away complicated things like sql behind an more accessible api...
> complicated things like sql
Heh, SQL (formerly SEQUEL) is the 'structured English query language', designed to be simple enough for anyone who knows a bit of English - not unlike Cobol.
Yes sure, but when you start one language having to learn another just to store and retrieve data is a lot to ask.
And of course once you progress with your data needs you get into more complex aspects of the language where the simplicity of the language isn't as important as the concepts and ideas it does express.
AFAIK the idea was that SQL is so close to plain English that any accountant could simply use it to generate reports or enter data. It's really an old fallacy that using plain language would make complexity go away.
Re:The Future of Software Is No Code
by yellowapple on Monday April 23, 2018 @10:14PM
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> SQL (formerly SEQUEL)
Off-topic, but today I learned I've been pronouncing it as originally intended all this time.
In other words: https://xkcd.com/927/ (XKCD: Standards)
Writing a device driver in C is complex, sure, but pretty much all that complexity comes from the problem domain. C++ adds a little more incidental complexity, but if you use it to write a device driver, you're still mostly fighting "how my computer talks to hardware" - and at least that's the correct fight to be having.
But if you're writing a CRUD app for the web, the incidental complexity is off the charts. Five different languages (HTML/JS/CSS/{Ruby|Python|Whatever}/SQL), three or more frameworks (Bootstrap/React/Redux/Django/SQLAlchemy)...and you haven't even deployed yet.
There should be a middle position between "impoverished pseudo programming language" and "here's your five-layer web stack, have fun". If your app is basically three "if" statements and a "for" loop with some UI on top, I agree that you should write those statements in a real programming language. But you shouldn't need three layers of framework on top, just to put them in front of a user!
I think this is what everyone is talking about when they bring up VB and Delphi in this thread. I don't think that "Delphi for the web" is an impossible goal - and I've put my money where my mouth is, by building a sane development platform for the web - https://anvil.works. You do everything in one language (Python), with proper tooling support (hello, autocomplete!), and skip the BS.
(On the other hand, perhaps this is what you meant by "CRUD apps will mostly be automated away". If so, it's only in the sense that my time is being "automated away" when I use a GCed language rather than malloc.)