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Re:How Windmills as Wide as Jumbo Jets Are Making Clean Ener... by Scarblac on Monday April 23, 2018 @09:16AM (#16903108)
This is why the only way to deal with climate change is countries with carbon reserves deciding to leave it in the ground.

If they don't, there is so much demand for the stuff (burning it is so incredibly useful) that it'll all be burned.

Re:How Windmills as Wide as Jumbo Jets Are Making Clean Ener... by toomuchtodo on Monday April 23, 2018 @09:40AM (#16903283)
Or for those with wealth to buy those reserves and put mechanisms in place to inhibit the extraction of those petroleum resources.
Re:How Windmills as Wide as Jumbo Jets Are Making Clean Ener... by everyone on Monday April 23, 2018 @09:49AM (#16903353)
Judging from all of human history.. 'those with wealth' tend to not be the conscientious type.

edit: Because, they are insulated from the bad repercussions of their harmful policies. Eg. Trafigura polluting the shit out of Ivory coast and poisoning people there. The CEO doesnt live there, he drinks bottled water and lives somewhere else in a gated compound.

Making those destructive choices makes things better for them so they keep making them over and over. If a CEO made a conscientious choice then it would most likely be at the expense of short term profit, which would diminish the extent of his power, sort of self-selecting himself out of the decision making pool.

Re:How Windmills as Wide as Jumbo Jets Are Making Clean Ener... by tomxor on Monday April 23, 2018 @10:13AM (#16903526)
I agree, but I find it hard to beleive that isolation alone is enough to make them so unempathetic. I can only assume it has something to do with the human capacity to lie to one self, otherwise even acknowledging the truth would just be too uncomfortable.

Makes me imagine some weird distopian future where all people with power and wealth are forced to take some anti-self-deciet drug to prevent crimes against humanity :P

Re:How Windmills as Wide as Jumbo Jets Are Making Clean Ener... by jcranendonk on Monday April 23, 2018 @11:07AM (#16904029)
> all people with power and wealth are forced to take some anti-self-deciet drug

But who would force them?

Re:How Windmills as Wide as Jumbo Jets Are Making Clean Ener... by tomxor on Monday April 23, 2018 @12:50PM (#16905132)
Well it's a sci-fi distopian future so there would be some twisted pseudo dictatorship of course ... except for the one guy at the top who exempts himself from the drug. Ok this is basically "equilibrium" with a different brain mod isn't it :P
Re:How Windmills as Wide as Jumbo Jets Are Making Clean Ener... by tim333 on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @04:40AM (#16910934)
Our future AI overlords, I imagine.
Re:How Windmills as Wide as Jumbo Jets Are Making Clean Ener... by icebraining on Monday April 23, 2018 @09:48AM (#16903350)
Equador tried an interesting approach: "pays us and we won't extract oil".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasun%C3%AD-ITT_Initiative

Re:How Windmills as Wide as Jumbo Jets Are Making Clean Ener... by PietdeVries on Monday April 23, 2018 @10:20AM (#16903592)
"tried" indeed - because according to the wikipedia lemma covering the topic: However, in July 2013, Ecuador's president Rafael Correa's commission on the Yasuni-ITT Initiative's progress, the commission concluded that economic results were insufficient, leading Correa to scrap the plan on August 15, 2013. As of early 2014, campaign groups are still attempting to save Yasuní-ITT from oil activities.
Re:How Windmills as Wide as Jumbo Jets Are Making Clean Ener... by omeid2 on Monday April 23, 2018 @09:47AM (#16903343)
Unfort, those in the position of power throughout the modern history has done the exact opposite.