Google changes its messaging strategy again: Goodbye to Allo, double down on RCS

Re:Google changes its messaging strategy again: Goodbye to A... by wetpaws on Friday April 20, 2018 @03:15PM (#16887697)

Totally agree. This is something a lot of people miss.

IT culture in general and Google especially puts too much pressure on engineers to re-invent the wheel to get better visibility and promotions.

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Re:Google changes its messaging strategy again: Goodbye to A... by nevir on Friday April 20, 2018 @05:29PM (#16888573)

When the primary thing you're evaluated for is "impact", it's a wonder that Googlers bother to maintain any existing products at all.

(Plenty do out of love for the product/customers/etc, but man it's soul crushing to not be recognized for it)

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Re:Google changes its messaging strategy again: Goodbye to A... by rhizome on Friday April 20, 2018 @05:41PM (#16888658)

it's a wonder that Googlers bother to maintain any existing products at all.

My understanding is that not everybody there knows where the corporate ladders are. If you don't (yet) know the terms of promotion at the GOOG, you'll be happy to knock out bugs and tweaks day in and day out. You're a Googler!

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Re:Google changes its messaging strategy again: Goodbye to A... by oh_sigh on Friday April 20, 2018 @06:27PM (#16888860)

The ladders and breakdown of what is required at each position are well known and talked about frequently, especially around performance review time. If you're a googler and don't know what's on your ladder you aren't paying attention

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Re:Google changes its messaging strategy again: Goodbye to A... by 18pfsmt on Saturday April 21, 2018 @02:45AM (#16890275)

I don't have any Google experience, but from what I've gathered over the years, there are always unwritten rules. Not everyone follows the spec. Often times, the spec even seems intentionally incomplete in retrospect.

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Re:Google changes its messaging strategy again: Goodbye to A... by balladeer on Saturday April 21, 2018 @03:58AM (#16890447)

There are almost always unwritten rules; everywhere.

For example everyone says value "work life balance is balanced here and encouraged". But irrespective of whether they actually do it or not - if the two people output around the same ballpark but one is visible as more serious/responsible and seems more invested usually by virtue of more hours at work that becomes more "visible" than the "casual" 7-8 hr person with the same output.

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Re:Google changes its messaging strategy again: Goodbye to A... by rhizome on Friday April 20, 2018 @07:00PM (#16889006)

So everybody onboards with the knowledge that launching new stuff is the only way to get promoted? Because that's Google's engineering reputation out here on the street.

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