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Re:What Dockless Bikes and Scooters Are Exposing by pdonis on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @10:11PM (#16872841)
> In most place in the US public transport is woefully under-funded, under-utilized, and overly stigmatized

You misspelled "in most places in the US public transport cannot meet people's needs". Yes, it can in inner cities, but most of the US is not inner cities.

Re:What Dockless Bikes and Scooters Are Exposing by chillwaves on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @10:47PM (#16872975)
> According to new numbers just released from the U.S. Census Bureau, 80.7 percent of the U.S. population lived in urban areas as of the 2010 Census

https://www.citylab.com/equity/2012/03/us-urban-population-w...

I assume that number has only gone up since 2010.

Re:What Dockless Bikes and Scooters Are Exposing by closeparen on Thursday April 19, 2018 @12:22AM (#16873315)
The Census Bureau’s “urban” is “not rural.” Most people live in metro areas, but in suburban and exurban parts of those metro areas without the density to make public transit good enough to rely on.
Re:What Dockless Bikes and Scooters Are Exposing by pdonis on Thursday April 19, 2018 @12:41AM (#16873380)
> 80.7 percent of the U.S. population lived in urban areas as of the 2010 Census

"Urban areas" includes where I live, which is not dense enough for public transportation to work well. Reading the article you cited, it looks like about half of the population labeled "urban" by the Census Bureau lives in areas that are like mine (or even less dense).

Re:What Dockless Bikes and Scooters Are Exposing by chillwaves on Thursday April 19, 2018 @03:52PM (#16879502)
> which is not dense enough for public transportation to work well

You lose me here. I live in a major metro area and public transportation works fine, even out into the suburbs where it is not as dense, but the public transit spokes out to the major hubs and people drive to those transit stations and park for the day.

Public transportation works for the vast majority of the country.

Re:What Dockless Bikes and Scooters Are Exposing by Spivak on Thursday April 19, 2018 @12:27PM (#16877236)
You don't deserve the downvotes. It's not really surprising that the HN crowd doesn't understand how public transport completely fails in sparse metro-areas.

- Walking, biking, etc. are out since there's very little mixed-use land. Getting out of your residential area is already outside what one could reasonably be expected to bike. Your nearest grocery store is even further.

- Fixed path transport is always being proposed but getting the coverage and schedule that would make people give up their cars is always ludicrously cost prohibitive. There are too many areas to hit and few people in each area which makes each stop basically unprofitable.

- Buses face exactly the same problems. Within the densest parts of the city they work well but they don't work well in sparse residential areas because it's not profitable to run them at convenient schedules for small populations that trickle in and out.

And we're talking about millions of people. Rearrange everything isn't exactly a viable path forward.