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Re:What Dockless Bikes and Scooters Are Exposing by gamblor956 on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @05:48PM (#16871529)
Cracking down on the scooters is relatively easy: there are a handful of major actors, and dealing with them solves the problem.

Human waste, needles, garbage on the sidewalk is the result of hundreds of bad actors, which correspondingly takes significantly more resources to deal with. (And on that note, the state of Texas is the worst offender. Their official policy for dealing with their homeless during the Perry era, and still their unofficial policy, was to give their homeless showers and then a bus ticket to SF.)

Re:What Dockless Bikes and Scooters Are Exposing by lifeisstillgood on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @05:53PM (#16871568)
And does California charge them for this?

That's an incredible story, especially from a Europe where immigration controls is on everyone's lips.

Re:What Dockless Bikes and Scooters Are Exposing by mjevans on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @06:31PM (#16871841)
That's the root of the problem: the borders of movement are at the federal level* (well the 48 states), but the 'solutions' for non-integrated citizens are left to the states, counties, and local municipalities.

Informally, I recall learning that the 'solution' for inhuman insane asylums was to just release everyone and close them down. That's quite probably where a good portion of the 'homeless' problem comes from; there are of course also untreated veterans and just pure scam-artist pan-handlers.

The actual solution is also a difficult and politically impalpable issue:

    * national healthcare including drug addition treatment and mental health
    * an unending 'new deal'
    * + everyone trained to aptitude
    * + non-broken-window fallacy job assurance
    * adequate housing of actual quality near jobs
Also taxes / incentives (carrot+stick) at a federal level to pay for / encourage the correct behavior from all actors.
Re:What Dockless Bikes and Scooters Are Exposing by PhasmaFelis on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @10:39PM (#16872940)
The various states have many powers that are reserved for independent nations elsewhere in the world, but interstate immigration control is not one of them. Freedom of movement is a Constitutional right, and there would be a huge bipartisan outcry if anyone tried to limit the movement of US citizens.
Re:What Dockless Bikes and Scooters Are Exposing by gamblor956 on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @06:00PM (#16871627)
We don't, and legally we can't. Once they accept the ticket to SF and choose to make their home on the sidewalk, they become our problem, legally. And SF (even now) is so much nicer than Texas that few of the homeless are willing to go back.
Re:What Dockless Bikes and Scooters Are Exposing by kingnothing on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @06:16PM (#16871747)
And SF, like most cities, has this program which will send the homeless somewhere else.

http://hsh.sfgov.org/services/outreach-and-homelessness-prev...

Re:What Dockless Bikes and Scooters Are Exposing by lifeisstillgood on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @06:07PM (#16871675)
Disputes between states are always political and only occasionally legal.

But yeah I can see it being difficult to prove, and harder to action. If one state wanted to sue the other, what is the process? Congress? Supreme court?

Re:What Dockless Bikes and Scooters Are Exposing by lev99 on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @10:22PM (#16872881)
States do get into law suites with each other from time to time. The issue has to be about federal law.

Nebraska and Oklahoma vs Colorado was recently declined to be heard by the Supreme Court.

Re:What Dockless Bikes and Scooters Are Exposing by UncleEntity on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @06:16PM (#16871742)
> That's an incredible story, especially from a Europe where immigration controls is on everyone's lips.

There's no immigration controls between the states because we're all part of the same country. Don't think it'd even be legal to try it, ever.

The only real "immigration controls" we have are for produce at the California border to control the immigration of insects, people are free to go wherever they want. Oh, and those annoying Border Control checkpoints not at the actual border to impede the movement of foreign nationals.

Re:What Dockless Bikes and Scooters Are Exposing by phd514 on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @06:26PM (#16871802)
That's a highly misleading statement. Homeless busing programs are common across the country and while not without their problems, they don't just send all homeless to a single location such as Texas to SF. Also, SF buses considerably more homeless out of its city every year than it receives via bus.
Re:What Dockless Bikes and Scooters Are Exposing by 0max on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @07:40PM (#16872225)
Maybe cities should organize to bus all their homeless residents to DC Union Station and Dupont Circle so those in the squaky clean Capitol can understand that this is a national issue. MLK tried to do something similar before he was assassinated.
Re:What Dockless Bikes and Scooters Are Exposing by checker on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @10:18PM (#16872858)
Have you actually been to DC? Union Station always had homeless outside when I worked nearby. DC may be unique in a few ways but in most ways it's similar to any other large city for the people that live there.

I agree that there's a problem to be solved but DC is far from squeaky clean...

Real numbers: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-has-the-highest-home...

Re:What Dockless Bikes and Scooters Are Exposing by joejerryronnie on Wednesday April 18, 2018 @10:53PM (#16873005)
Sounds like there's enough demand to create a "homeless busing as a service" app.