Re:Guild Wars 2 distributed spyware in order to detect cheaters
by fatal1ty420 on Tuesday April 17, 2018 @05:19AM
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There are two issues here.
- First, the spyware angle.
The software actively spied on the user and sent back everything. No other anti-cheat does this and no company ever betrayed users like this. (Except for ESEA who implemented a bitcoin miner in their client at some point. And yes, people including me remember.)
- The fact that people got banned for not even cheating!
This is the ridiculous part.
First, ArenaNet or Guild Wars 2 has NO RIGHTS to ban users for cheating in any other title. Valve has no right to ban me, because I install a mod for GTA V. Blizzard cannot ban me, because I use a trainer for FFXV.
Second. Other companies like Evenbalance makes sure there is a valid signature, and they even do screenshots, etc. It's not just a blind ban "because I think so".
I hope, some at least, see the pattern/point here.
Third. I, for example, had MMOMinion's framework installed, and of course, I may have launched it by mistake, I cannot remember. It was pinned in my start menu but I have not used it in a year or so. I did NOT have the bots installed for either GW2 and FFXIV - so the program by itself had zero capability to even attach a cheat.
So basically, I had zero cheats installed, but had a software that COULD BE used for cheats. This is beyond ridiculous. It's like banning everyone for using Windows, because Windows is capable of running cheats. This is just utter nonsense, there are no words to describe such level of stupidity.
- To top this all off, Anet still did not post anything, still have not accepted that they just pulled a huge blunder. Their "chief of security" (some weaboo with "excellent skills" as he has just demonstrated) should have been apologizing ever since the spyware was found. But no, to hell with that. Their only response is "you accepted the eula."
tl;dr: The bans are false positive. Lots of them. It's a messed up ban, it should not have stayed active, it should have been reverted a long time ago until they come up with a better solution.
- First, the spyware angle. The software actively spied on the user and sent back everything. No other anti-cheat does this and no company ever betrayed users like this. (Except for ESEA who implemented a bitcoin miner in their client at some point. And yes, people including me remember.)
- The fact that people got banned for not even cheating! This is the ridiculous part. First, ArenaNet or Guild Wars 2 has NO RIGHTS to ban users for cheating in any other title. Valve has no right to ban me, because I install a mod for GTA V. Blizzard cannot ban me, because I use a trainer for FFXV.
Second. Other companies like Evenbalance makes sure there is a valid signature, and they even do screenshots, etc. It's not just a blind ban "because I think so".
I hope, some at least, see the pattern/point here. Third. I, for example, had MMOMinion's framework installed, and of course, I may have launched it by mistake, I cannot remember. It was pinned in my start menu but I have not used it in a year or so. I did NOT have the bots installed for either GW2 and FFXIV - so the program by itself had zero capability to even attach a cheat.
So basically, I had zero cheats installed, but had a software that COULD BE used for cheats. This is beyond ridiculous. It's like banning everyone for using Windows, because Windows is capable of running cheats. This is just utter nonsense, there are no words to describe such level of stupidity.
- To top this all off, Anet still did not post anything, still have not accepted that they just pulled a huge blunder. Their "chief of security" (some weaboo with "excellent skills" as he has just demonstrated) should have been apologizing ever since the spyware was found. But no, to hell with that. Their only response is "you accepted the eula."
tl;dr: The bans are false positive. Lots of them. It's a messed up ban, it should not have stayed active, it should have been reverted a long time ago until they come up with a better solution.